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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:34 pm 
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graham1975 wrote:
Thing is you are never going to find a LIGHT steel frame, they are all about 5LB


i have three steel frames that are much lighter than that (around 4) so light steel frames do exist...


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Not any more, new CEN safety standards have put 4lbs steel hardtails to rest. Most have gained about half a pound to meet the new standard. I was speaking with Bobby at Salsa about this a few weeks ago.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:03 pm 
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Have you considered a Cove Handjob or Santa Cruz Chameleon?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:46 pm 
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yeah I have,

I like the look of the Handjob, but do like the UK heritage involved in the design of the Soul.

Did see some frames on ebay for £330 though - but my heart is saying wait until you have the funds for a Soul.


There is something about it!


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:16 pm 
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know these : http://www.sobre-bikes.com/ ?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:16 pm 
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any experiences of Souls vs Handjobs ;)


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:43 pm 
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I have had a soul and a handjob, the cove was a lot more sluggish and dead feeling, the cotic however is a joy, just a real joy to ride. I have had eleventy hard tails in all materials over the years except carbon thats just wrong, and the only way i see to go past the soul is to go Ti and then you are into silly money :-( not that i wouldn't buy a ti one tomorrow as long as the wife wouldn't find out :-)

i also had a SC chameleon which was really fast and fun but no good for longer than 1.5 hr rides.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:56 pm 
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that's what I thought from all the reading I have done!

right, decision made, a Soul it is.


Who wants to buy an Ernie Ball Music Man Luke guitar ;)

hmmm . . . what else can I sell!!


Cheers guys, you have all been very helpful.


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Although i do have a nice Rocky Mountain Blizzard in 853 around 94 i guess. Its got disc tabs and v mounts if you are interested ... size 19.5 :-)


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:41 pm 
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hmm - I have a stand over of about 28" - I am a right short arse!

Always lusted after a Rocky Mountain Blizzard back in the day, remember one in white with all the black shiny syncros kit - was my dream bike when I bought my Aluminium O from Freetown in Hull LOL

19.5" too large sadly :(


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