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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:37 am 
Dirt Disciple

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On 26th April my Peugeot PKN-10 Competition 1980 racer was stolen from outside a cafe in Hampstead, North London. A very distinctive bike with a very big frame (25 inches) and lots of rare gear on it including an original 1980 Peugeot computer.
I posted stolen notices all over the Internet and watched Gumtree and ebay like a hawk.
I found it! It was listed for sale in London. I emailed the seller and just said I wanted to see the bike with a view to bidding on it.
The next day he emailed me his mobile number and I arranged to see the bike at lunchtime, at his work - he works at one of the most famous architectural practices in the world, near my work. I printed out the pics I had taken when I had the bike, of both sides and of the frame number. I handed these to him and asked him to hold them as I turned the bike upside down and checked the frame number - yup, it was mine. I then asked him to unfold the paper and check the frame number. I told him it was a stolen bike and he said he had found it on a rubbish heap outside his home - in Hampstead. He had changed the bar tape from black to yellow, changed the saddle and pedals and someone (he said not him) had removed the mudguards, lights, computer etc.
He then said he wanted to be sure it was my bike, I said here is the crime number registered with the police, and i would be happy to call them. He then said he wanted to remove his parts form the bike. I pointed out, quite strongly that he had admitted removing my saddle and pedals and throwing them away so I was going to take the bike as it was and not call the police if he was reasonable.
He carried on whining about his parts, how he had stripped and cleaned and serviced the bike (he had overtightened the head bearings, taken off the original white cables, replaced them with crap black ones and put the new handlebar tape on upside down) and how he was going to get some tools and remove them, I started to get pissed off by this time and called the police, telling them I was going to forcibly remove the bike, and that it would not be good to be seen 'rolling around in the dirt arguing' about the bike outside his work. This got the police's interest and I thought they would respond quickly.
Sure enough, 5 minutes later they turned up. They threatened to arrest him for 'stealing by finding' after he admitted he was trying to sell it on ebay. He was very stubborn and foolish, constantly bleating about getting his parts back. He was starting to wind up the policeman and policewoman who had been called out and they turned to me and asked me if I would make a statement and then he would be arrested and taken to the local police station and probably cautioned - something that would stay on his record and probably not be very good on his CV.
I told the policeman that I would much rather take the bike as it was and not get the boy into trouble, I pointed out that his colleagues were now gathering round and looking in amazement as he talked himself into getting a criminal record. His attitude was incredible - he was gunning for trouble . After another five minutes of this arguing over some worn out pedals and a fairly crap saddle, I said again that I was taking the bike as it was, I would not get him arrested and that he was to go back into the cycle park at his work and get the bike. He did this and I just walked away, after giving my name and address to the policeman.
The morals of the story - if you find a bike, take it to the local police station and you will get to keep it if no-one claims it, or at least you can buy it later on the police online auction site - bumblebeeauctions dot co dot uk after a suitable time for the police to check if it is reported stolen/missing.
And if you lose a bike - keep looking on Gumtree, ebay, Preloved, all the auction sites, post stolen notices everywhere you can - with photos of your bike and make sure you have the frame number written down in more than one place plus stamp your postcode on the frame and register the bike with immobilise dot com
And if you do find a bike or steal one and the rightful owner comes to claim it, don't play up like a little bitch - say sorry and hand the bike back. The boy who had my bike came within a c**t hair of getting some punishment, it was mainly that I had a work colleague with me restraining me and that I had previously reported the bike to the police that I did not lose my temper.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:58 am 
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Glad you got your bike back. The 'seller' was an utter C**T I wouldn't have done it any differently.
Great to read a story with a happy ending.

Welcome to the site as well :D


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:04 pm 
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GOOD RESULT BUD.

and I thought LGF was passionate about his tip finds ... :wink:

I can understand his frustration having put some time and money into his find, but thats the risk he runs.
He sounds a gripper though. A good egg would have been happy to see you reunited with the bike and left it. He now looks a dick to his colleagues and the cops have another statistic.
makes you wonder if he found it on a tip or outside a cafe....


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:11 pm 
King of the Skip Monkeys
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this what I've always worried about when I'm tootling around on a latest 'tip-find' - espesh when neighbour across the road dumps his GT at the recycling centre only for it to reapear in almost mint condition with my missus aboard riding past his front door... :shock:


My own Zaskar was stolen in 1999 - a year later, I saw it being ridden around near our local nick. I politely clamped my hand around the top tube and invited the guy to come over to the police station. He declined, I got my bike back... :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:30 pm 
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glad you got it back - this thread needs pics :D

As other threads in general chat have shown some people have funny ideas how to behave. Let me think do I get
a) No crap saddle and a police caution

or

b) No crap saddle

tough one that :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:35 pm 
King of the Skip Monkeys
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yes, pics please as there are a few Peugeot fans floating around here.

If its nicer than this one, I wont like you...


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:39 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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Here it is, as it was before it got pinched. Missing is the lovely original 1980 Peugeot Sport computer - anyone got one? And the reflectors, the brake 'lead-in' tabs fixed the the calipers/brake blocks, cables have been changed to black ones and the tape is now yellow (put on upside down).
It is a very well-used PKN-10 (I think) which is one model down from the PX-10 Team type bike - 'Competition' on the top tube, not 'Super Competition' like the PX/PY-10. It is French market model (531 stickers in French, front brake cable on left lever originally) and I rescued it from the jaws of the crusher at my local recycling depot many years ago. have done a lot of miles on it since but still with the original(?) Hutchinson tyres. Sorry about the picture quality.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:31 pm 
King of the Skip Monkeys
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heres the fella:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:35 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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Cheers, that is the one, I had this picture in my bookmarks - it seems that the drilled chainwheels were only on certain market models - mine has them but a catalogue I have for UK in 1980 does not have them drilled. Anyway, it is a great bike but obviously not as fine as your PX10...
I am trying to get the stolen bits back from the boy who 'found' the bike but if anyone has a SJA102 front changer (mech) and the plastic coated alloy (I think they were alloy, maybe plated steel) tabs that guide the wheels in, fitted to the brake block carriers/brake blocks, that would be great...


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:05 pm 
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Well done! You were lucky the w**ker hadn't turned it into a botch of fixee... I'd pour the poor think a glass of lube - it's probably still traumatized.

Nice looking bike!


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