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Pantographing. Good or Bad?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:53 pm 
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Interested into people's views on it. Couple of old boys I ride with who were reasonable racers back in the 70s were very dismissive of it - show ponys only they reckon.

Looks ok I reckon, in moderation of course 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:02 pm 
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As I've said before - I got into building and enjoying road bikes big time, these pantographed bits can really set off a 'showy' frame, Italian flair and so on.

Would love a Merckx stem/ Campagnolo chainring but they are pricey.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:28 pm 
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wow, the bike in your pic john. looks crazy nice. pantographing is sweet. i think it shows the companies were thinking about the people riding there bikes. offering something to all corners of the market, making money and people happy. sure it is shameless and self promoting even tacky, but personally i would like one....


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it looks good on the right bike with right equipement .


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I must confess to having to look up the word "pantographing" :oops: I was hoping for something a bit naughtier, but since it's not; Yes - all things in moderation and all that. :)


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Pantograph
A pantograph is a 4-bar/4-pivot mechanical linkage that is used to copy designs, sometimes in different sizes. 2 of the corners are fixed, the tracing point is on one of the movable corners and the engraver is on the other. If the 4 arms are all the same length, the copy is the same size as the stencil, but by varying the arm length you can make a pantograph enlarge or reduce graphics.

A pantograph with an engraving tool is commonly used to engrave names in bicycle parts. High-end bikes, particularly Italian ones, sometimes have the frame builder's name "pantographed" on the handlebar stem, cranks/chainrings, lugs, etc.

i cant be the only one without a clue what you lot were on about!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:22 pm 
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John wrote:
Couple of old boys I ride with who were reasonable racers back in the 70s were very dismissive of it - show ponys only they reckon.


For sure. But Show Ponys is what most classic road bikes are these days! My Gios only comes out on special occasions and I'd fit the original panto stem, seatpost and chainring at the drop of a hat, if I could find them for sale.

Wouldn't have used Panto kit on a race bike if I'd been around at the time though. And no jokes about widow Twanky please.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:24 pm 
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pantographing= very good indeed I say!
Most Italian companies who did it use nice classy lettering, which really works. I just think it conveys Italiano pride and flair, and seems appropriate. (esp. where Super Record's involved..)


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cchris2lou wrote:
it looks good on the right bike with right equipement .


Agree


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:43 am 
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I agree with it being in moderation and on the right machine.
I have a panto stem on my Merckx, but thats all. Some machines look really classy with it but others look a bit too tarty.

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