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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:55 pm 
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Hi
I bought this yesterday at a 2nd hand shop for 35 euro. It has a 1979 (a man on ebay says) Dura-ace gruppo with record hubs, MAFAC brake levers and OMAS headset, and lovely shaped 3t bars. At the time I only recognised the campag and dura-ace and it seemed like a bargin. Recent internet research tells me the other bits and bobs were good kit back in the day.
I guess it has had a respray and and overzelous yellow highlighting at some point,
The only branding is "Champion" stickers on the down tube, a painter sticker at top of seat tube and a bike shop sticker on one of the chain stays.

It has campag rear dropouts and "Cinelli SC, Made in Italy" under the bb. Obviously I know Cinelli, but is the frame a Cinelli one or just the bb?

I would be very gratefull if anybody could add to my meagre knowledge .

Not sure what I will do with it as it is not quite my size and all the components need a bit of love and polish. Though I do love a bit of polishing on a Sunday afternoon...

Thanks for your help.
Sam

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Sorry about the bin
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The resprayers?
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Am I getting carried away to imagine these are Colagno spokes? The spokes and rims are the most knackered bits on the bike though..
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:15 pm 
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Looks like >>>

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I am sorry, I have no idea.

I like that seat. I like more from your bike. Good score.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:02 pm 
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Nice find Sam,
Dont know what yours is but a search for builders that used a U cutout on the lugs or as a trademark may help.
The cinelli on the BB is probably just the BB, they supplied to all over the world.
Its a nice looking frame though and well worth the 35 euro :D

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:35 pm 
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Yeah, more reseach has indicated the unlikelyness of id-ing a frame based on Cinelli BB shell and campag dropouts...
Thanks for your help.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:37 pm 
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I would date it to early to mid 80s.

I agree the "Cinelli" just means it's a Cinelli BB shell. As already mentioned, the U cutout could be an identifying mark. Also, two top tube guides, rather than three, is less common, I think.

Those are Berg chrome plated spokes!
I think spokes are probably the only bike part that has never had "Colnago" on them.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:02 pm 
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A good value purchase, should restore nicely. The lugs intrigue me, any one any idea what they are - Bocama perhaps?

Colour scheme definitely a crib of Faema I'd say, personally I've always liked it.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:25 pm 
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From the fact that it's Dutch and it has 'Champion' written on it I'd say there's a fair chance it's a Gazelle.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:07 am 
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wouldn't you expect it to also have gazelle written on it in that case?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:18 pm 
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I have/had quite a lot Gazelle Champion Mondials. The frame doesn't look like any of them I can tell.


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