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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:10 am 
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Must stop looking at threads with pictures in, I want a cross bike now lol

I like the Ibis bike, the brake hanger is a neat touch


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:00 pm 
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elPedro666 wrote:
kaiser wrote:
a relatively neutral/dull ride leaves me wanting something nicer.


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Crikey, that's disappointing! Looks the bizzo too :?

Hope I don't have the same result with this little beauty!
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What's the story with the front mech cable route? Does it have a braze-on pulley mount provided (as per my old Edison CX bike) or have you got to either (a) go top-pull or (b) get one of those DMR Mechverter widgets?

David


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Same old Fort frame & Sintema forks with a new paint job and slightly souped-up spec;

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Frame: Fort Foco TIG-welded steel, 56cm

Fork: Sintema "Muddy" 1" threadless, carbon with steel steerer

Headset: Miche Primato 1" threadless with blue SRP titanium top cap
Stem: ITM Eclypse 1" A-Head silver, 12cm
Handlebar: ITM Millennium Ergal, 42cm
Bar Tape: Silva cork

Brake Levers/Brifters: Campag Chorus 10sp (alloy levers) for "Shimergo" set-up
Brake Calipers: Modolo Cantilever - 24 years old and still going strong!
Brake Pads: Aztec BRBX dual compound cartridge, and are actually V-brake pads (highly recommend these pads for 'cross)
Brake Cables: Fibrax

Front Derailleur: Sachs New Success clamp-on, double
Rear Derailleur: Sachs Quarz short cage
Derailleur Cables: Fibrax
Cassette: SRAM PG850 13-26
Chain: Union 810 with Sachs Powerlink
Cranks: Middleburn, 175mm long, 110mm BCD spider, square taper, self-extracting Royce titanium crank bolts
Chainrings: 110 BCD 36 (Stronglight)/46 (TA), silver with blue anodized alloy bolts
Bottom Bracket: Race Face titanium 110mm, English thread
Pedals: Time ATAC XS

Rims: Mach 1 CFX silver, 32h, 700c
Hubs: Hope front, Dura-Ace cassette rear
Hub Skewers: Hope copies, blue
Nipples: Mach 1
Spokes: Mach 1
Tyres: Nokian Ravagozzi 700c x 35
Tubes: Trax self-sealing Presta valve

Saddle: Selle San Marco SKN, titanium rails, Union flag finish
Seatpost: Selcof Mod.31, 27.2mm
Seatpost Binder: Fort

David


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:21 am 
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retro-rich wrote:
Must stop looking at threads with pictures in, I want a cross bike now lol






i was thinking the exact same thing, so basically...a cross bike is just a road bike with offroad-ish tyres? or is it a mountain bike with slimmer tyres and drops?

God i'm blagged...its better if i don't know... it will stop me getting one, to fill a gap that i'd never known i had.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:42 am 
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Sort of a cross bike, certainly fits into the cross section on the Genesis website, definitely a bit heavy to be a true crosser. I use it as a commuter although I just wish it was a bit lighter, I find the Alfine a little notchy at times and the engagement is not instant with a little free wheel before it engages (can be annoying at lights). Other than that lovely bike in my favourite colour! Quite envious of some of the bikes on this thread but it's got to be discs from now on, hasn't it?

Trevor.


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 Post subject: Cross bikes
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:16 pm 
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I have a new blog site for X bikes, which will have lots of differant bikes on which is the wondeful thing about X-bikes
Everyone has there owners little touches

http://crossbikes4u.blogspot.com/

will be some pics later in the week, including the only disc-braked X bike to win an open X race ???


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 Post subject: Cross Bikes
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:04 pm 
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North Wales cyclo X races

Revolution bikes Winter X League starts October 9th

full details

http://nwcycloxgroup.ning.com/

all ages of all abilities on any kind of bike welcome


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:07 am 
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Hey,

So after a longish search I finally found a steel frame cross bike, affodable, and in my size!

Van Hout was a bike shop in Heist op Den Berg. Cigno was their own brand of bikes (nothing to do with the shockingly expensive fake vintage bikes from Italy). Sadly the shop closed recently because of illness.

The components are a mix of shimano stuff, nothing particularly thrilling, but it's mainly the frame I like.

I've not been able to work out exactly what the rear derailleur is. Can anyone enlighten me?

Cheers,

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BTW, someone asked what the differences between cyclocross and road bikes is. Here's an attempt at a summary.

-Cable routing: along the top tube, both to prevent the cables getting clarted up with mud and to make it easier for 'portage' (carrying) sections

-Brakes: cantilevers instead of pivots. But cross bikes use brifters/ergos which for some reason means v-brakes won't work. Recently, attempts have been made to use disc brakes but the cyclocross authorities don't like it.

-Weight: cross bikes are usually kept as light as possible, again to help with portage.

-Tyres: obviously more of a profile than road bikes but thinner than MTB tyres.

Anything I've missed?

I like the aesthetics of old steel cross frames - they stand apart more clearly from mountain bikes and look more elegant to me.

In an article in the Dutch magazine 'Grinta' they did a comparison of cross and MTB bikes and found cross bikes came out better in most types
of off road terrain. For example on tight woodland trails the narrow profile of the cross bars is an advantage (although this was in the Netherlands/Belgium so they didn't really go into the mountains).


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:34 am 
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Johnsqual wrote:
BTW, someone asked what the differences between cyclocross and road bikes is. Here's an attempt at a summary.

-Cable routing: along the top tube, both to prevent the cables getting clarted up with mud and to make it easier for 'portage' (carrying) sections

-Brakes: cantilevers instead of pivots. But cross bikes use brifters/ergos which for some reason means v-brakes won't work. Recently, attempts have been made to use disc brakes but the cyclocross authorities don't like it.

-Weight: cross bikes are usually kept as light as possible, again to help with portage.

-Tyres: obviously more of a profile than road bikes but thinner than MTB tyres.

Anything I've missed?

I like the aesthetics of old steel cross frames - they stand apart more clearly from mountain bikes and look more elegant to me.

In an article in the Dutch magazine 'Grinta' they did a comparison of cross and MTB bikes and found cross bikes came out better in most types
of off road terrain. For example on tight woodland trails the narrow profile of the cross bars is an advantage (although this was in the Netherlands/Belgium so they didn't really go into the mountains).


A proper CX bike - as against a hybrid or re-jigged tourer pretending to be a CX bike - won't have any mudguard fittings on the dropouts/chainstay bridges either. Bottle mounts on the other hand aren't unknown.
Cables - some modern frames use a conventional (down tube) front mech cable route, avoiding the need to put a tension adjusting stop on the top tube and a pulley on the seat tube to ensure ordinary bottom-pull derailleurs still work.

David


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