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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:16 pm 
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anyone going to help?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:49 pm 
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Both those bikes look to say the least rough, depends how bad the dent is on the guerciotti it could make it practically worthless because repair costs would ruin its value. Not to mention its been stripped of all its best components. I doubt its worth over 70 as it stands.

The peugeot needs a lot to get it back to scratch as well, it looks rough without knowing the tubing...i'm assuming its carbolite 50 quid if you tidied it up, 120 would be the price for a very very nice clean example of the 531 tubing version, so even if it were 531 tubing more like 80-90 just because of the condition.


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the bikes are meant to look rough, that's the sort of bike you need for commuting or as a beater

Peugeot is a Carbolite and the dent on the Guerciotti is tiny

after the money i spent and the parts i put on them i think those prices are to low to be honest, they both have nice parts, some are even brand new

both bikes will be finished and fully ride-able when i'm done as well


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Never Stop wrote:
the bikes are meant to look rough, that's the sort of bike you need for commuting or as a beater

Peugeot is a Carbolite and the dent on the Guerciotti is tiny

after the money i spent and the parts i put on them i think those prices are to low to be honest, they both have nice parts, some are even brand new

both bikes will be finished and fully ride-able when i'm done as well



You can get a mint condition carbolite off ebay for under 60, beaters rarely reach 50 i saw one down the pawn shop a couple of weeks ago for 25 quid and it was in nicer shape than that one...

The guerciotti you might even be better just stripping it and selling the frame, they seem to make alright money although the fact the other owner ruined it by cutting off lugs etc is going to hurt it.

Fact is if you are trying to market them as beaters, people will want to pay beater prices.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1980s-Peugeot-Premier-Racing-Bike-Racer-Carbolite-Frame-/190626276419?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item2c62362443#ht_500wt_1203


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:36 pm 
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tom_d wrote:
SBDU, Gerald O'donovan built Raleigh Panasonic frame and forks, 531 Professional Tubing - 53cm st
Campag dropouts.

Serial number - SB 6944 53

Badly in need of a restoration, paint is original, but has been touched up badly and is in generally bad condition. One large dent in the toptube and a couple of small dings. Unfortunately, the headtube has some ovalisation (see pics)

I'm thinking of selling because i can't afford to lavish the money and love it needs to bring it back to it's former glory. Would like to know what people would pay considering the condition?

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Anyone? - Will be looking to sell in the next few weeks so would like a ballpark figure to start with


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For me this is not an easy one, Tom. Sorry I can't be of help. Other people?


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Would it be worth getting a quote from a framebuilder so I can give potential buyers some idea of resotration costs?


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1duck- I get what your saying, but with the parts they will have and the fact they will work nicely i think the price you said is to low

ill try the Peugeot at 100 posted and the Guerciotti at 120 posted

tom_d- check this link out http://www.tedjamesdesign.com/work/repairs/


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Never Stop wrote:
1duck- I get what your saying, but with the parts they will have and the fact they will work nicely i think the price you said is to low

ill try the Peugeot at 100 posted and the Guerciotti at 120 posted

tom_d- check this link out http://www.tedjamesdesign.com/work/repairs/


I wouldn't even waste your time fitting the components because its not going to work.



Have you seen what you can buy for a hundred quid?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENTS-RACING-BIKE-/270901236074?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item3f12f8d16a

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Holdsworth-Elan-Reynolds-531-classic-80s-road-bike-fixed-wheel-single-speed-/300653871701?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item46005e0255

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carlton-Ten-Vintage-Racing-Bike-1970s-Reynolds-531-Frame-23-/170764529370?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item27c25beeda

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carrera-Racing-Bike-22-5in-Reynolds-531-RX100-/230734738580?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item35b8dcb494

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-FONDRIEST-Racing-Bike-Campagnolo-/160719687670?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item256ba3cff6

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RIBBLE-ROAD-BIKE-/300652950709?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item46004ff4b5


Save yourself the time and money, concentrate on the guerciotti and just forget the carbolite peugeot you can't polish a turd.


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okay you made your point...


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