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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:11 pm 
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Abaca wrote:
Unable to attach pictures but its rear triangle is blue and the rest is white,owner states it's a 12 speed,I reckon an 80's bike,maybe carbolite?

It sounds like you've found a Peugeot: Carbolite was their own-brand tubeset. Very broadly speaking Carbolite is 501 level, so only found on the lower end of their range.

They produced so many models it's hard to be any more specific, but the only thing I'd be wary of are Helicomatic freewheels. Mind you, they usually self-destructed shortly after purchase, so you're probably safe!

A few years ago I paid £60 for a minty fresh Camargue, so you're in the right ballpark.

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Also found a non retro (tut tut) Carrera TDF about 5/6 years old, aluminium frame for around the same cash.

A few years back, the TDF regularly featured in "best bikes for beginners" reviews.

But that was a few years back and it certainly wouldn't now.

I'd pay similar sort of money as I would for the Peugeot, although I'd take the Pug over the Carrera: better cheap steel, than cheap aluminium from a ride perspective.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:39 pm 
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Wondering if anyone can give me a guide price on this henry burton tourer.

Good and sturdy machine. mix of componants: slr brake levers, shimano paralax hubs with rigida sputnik rims. sora cranks and front mech, indexed sl downtube shifers.
Belived it is mid to late 90's two care full owners still on original tyres.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:09 pm 
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Hi
I've owned this Peugeot 653 Athena for the last 20 years, but it doesn't fit me now, and I could do with the space. It's had upgrades over the years, so it's currently rolling 8 speed Mirage Ergo levers (Daytona mech and 8 speed Chorus hub/cassette). Aksium front wheel, handbuilt rear wheel (with Chorus hub, sapim spokes, CFX rim), Nitto technomic stem. Currently looks like this (with the old school aero bars, but with a Flite Titanium saddle instead of the Brookes). The paintwork is good in general, but the chrome isn't brilliant (though it polishes up very shiny).
Any suggestions of how much this is worth?
ImageIMG_20170805_162517 by duncancmartin, on Flickr
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:27 am 
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Hi, I am new to the forum and I am trying to get some more information on my bike and work out the make and the value.

It`s a blue road bike with the frame decal of Personal. I can't work out who the manufacturer is. there is a small competition sticker that may be in the colnago colors, but I am not sure.

it has Campagnolo front and rear derailleurs
Balillia cantilever brakes
3TTT stem and bars
Pelissier hubs
MM Atom quick release hubs.

I have had it for several years and its a very quick bike but needs some TLC to get it looking good, as its been kept outside.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:32 am 
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Curious!

The brakes, brake levers, shifters and handlebars date from around the late Sixties/early Seventies.

Whereas the stem, front hub and frame are from the Eighties.

It's not unusual for parts to be replaced, but obviously you'd expect them to be more recent than the frame.

I did wonder if it's "Personai" rather than "Personal", but that draws a blank too. Personai has an Italian ring to it (although Google translate thinks Lithuanian), but it was common to use Italian sounding brand names because of the perceived cachet.

The fork crown and the flutes on the top of the seat stays are rather nice, but I don't think the frame is exceptional. If you knew the diameter of the seatpost, this would give a clue as to the quality of the tubing used and the threading of the bottom bracket might suggest it's origin.

Better photos of the cranks and derailleurs would help.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:03 am 
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Going to move on my 1977 Dave Moulton TT frameset cos I'm just not going to build it and ride it. Original fork, drilled dropouts, very close clearance, single rear lever boss and over BB routing, 27.2 post, it may have been repainted at some stage and has some paint bubbling by the lever boss, looks like the rear drive side dropout has taken a knock too but it is straight.

Will upload pics in a bit - any thoughts though?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:04 pm 
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Re Craig 75003

The bike could be rebadged for a bike shop. Something like peasons cycle shop maybe. The bike has some of the characteristics of a falcon or Clements bike made in about 83 or 84.
Often shops would buy bikes from bike manufacturers and put their own name on it.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:43 pm 
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Thanks for the comments I will try and measure the stem and get some better photos.

I should probably have mentioned that I originally bought the bike in the south of France, near my wife's home town of Avignon.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:22 pm 
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Hello road enthusiasts!
I bought a lovely late 70's (I think) randonneur and want to replace the wheelset.
It has Campagnolo hubs and Mavic MA2 rims.
All in very good shape, rims are hardly worn. Original cassette.
What's a honest price for this set?
Cheers
Jeroen


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:24 pm 
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Hmmm... no one a clue what they're worth? /\


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