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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:36 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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Hi all,

Does anyone have any history or info on “delta-sportive” bikes?

Any info gratefully recieved.

Thanks in advance.

J


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:36 pm 
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Do you have one? If so a photo would be useful. The name rings a bell in some way but have you any idea about the date of the frame? This might help to trace adverts etc.

EDIT - a quick Google threw up what I had suspected. DS frames came from Chevin Cycles in Otley, built Jim Hargreaves who also built the Pavone frames for Peacocks in Halifax. Allegedly, Lloyds may have transfers for them.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:19 pm 
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I may have been wrong about Jim Hargreaves building these frames although I have seen it mentioned somewhere. My latest info is that it was Geoff Davis who built them but still in Otley. Coincidentally, one has come up for sale by a fellow member of Bygone Bykes Club, stated to have been previously owned by Denise Burton. It will probably therefore be a smallish size. I have also found some small ads from 'Cycling' mags of the 80's which I can scan and post if anyone is interested.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:38 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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Hi there
Thanks for the info. I have done some research and I believe to have a short wheelbase “MKM Ultimate” frame badged as a delta sportive - with a sloped fork instead of crowns.
I wonder if this is a delta sportive made frame copying the MKM ultimate or is infact just badges up as such.
Does anyone have any info on this? Or knew if they had a sponsored team at the time?
Thanks in advance.
J


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:49 pm 
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Never seen anybody copy the Ultimate, any pics?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:55 pm 
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Picture attached. Let me know your thoughts.
Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:15 pm 
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Hmmm, can't make my mind up, doesn't quite look like an Ultimate from the MKM stable, forks and internal routing aside.....


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:23 pm 
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Indeed - a mystery!


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:25 pm 
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I welcome any info or thoughts - it’s an intriguing frame. I wonder if anyone else knows anything about the brand?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:10 am 
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It's a big 'un! I'm a bit like Midlife over this. There's something about it that doesn't seem quite right. It's lugless so that's OK but perhaps it's just the size. However, some Ultimates were built by a guy in Liverpool when they closed in Harrogate - so not built by Steve Elsworth who was the in-house MKM Ultimate builder. But why it should have Delta Sportive transfers is a bit of a mystery.

Have a look at the ones here -

http://www.timetriallingforum.co.uk/ind ... -ultimate/

I think the first one is genuine. The second silver one was mine - and I'm not certain that this is a genuine Harrogate MKM.


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