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European Steel or American Alloy
European Steel 85%  85%  [ 51 ]
American Alloy 15%  15%  [ 9 ]
Total votes : 60
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:12 pm 
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For me a Klein over a Colnago and a Cinelli over a Cannondale, so.... :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:45 am 
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I've got a '98 Rhygin road bike, made in Cambridge, Mass. from Columbus Metax Stainless Steel. I had it built in 98 with Shimano 9 Speed Dura Ace components. I'll post a pic soon.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:23 pm 
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I've gone for euro steel. Although my Cannondale CAAD4 was a beautiful road bike, comfy too. Only got rid of it because the Colnago C40 was available :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:45 pm 
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I'm Italian so I OBVIOUSLY vote 4 America Alloy. A QUANTUM beats any unassuming Colnago


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:05 am 
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until 12 years ago i was all over for slim italian steel, chrome, nice lugs and rode them alot. i just never liked the not really stiff ride (i'm 6'4" and not overly skinny...) and they scared me more than once on fast descends. a buddy recommended to try a Cannondale. i liked the stiffer ride and more efficient power transfer but not the geometry so i somewhen test rode a Klein Quantum and was sold. i never looked back and still have my Quantum Race i have bought in late 96 and love it. a few others followed... and they look good too :) that's one i have built for a friend

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:20 am 
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I am with stu: US steel for me. And I'll add Steelman and Richard Sachs to that list. :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:42 pm 
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European every day of the week. Specializeds, Treks, C'Dales have no soul whatsoever.

Any handbuilt bike has bags of soul regardless of where it was made.

'Tis why I swing my leg over a Dolan built Cougar every day*





*not strictly true, I bought the Cougar not fully aware of what I was buying (NOS). Great paint job, Ultegra & D Ace finishing kit but most importnatly a killer price. Whilst waiting for it to be built up I discovered that the frame alone was probably worth 50% more than what I was paying for the whole build! :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:15 pm 
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Radar wrote:
European every day of the week. Specializeds, Treks, C'Dales have no soul whatsoever.


Interesting. I can choose between a merckx corsa slx or s-works compact...the merckx may have soul but the s-works goes like a rocket.....


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:01 pm 
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i'm not surprised to see steel on top here. until recently alloy was all but unrideable, IMHO. but my Al frame of reference includes only a ~1990 klein quantum and a late-90s cannondale (w/carbon fork). so it's probably not a fair contest against the steel bikes i've owned, a 1990 sachs and a 1992 scapin el-os.

not to knock modern materials (and material science) though...carbon and carbon/metal 'skeleton' frames are some seriously engineered gear, and lowly old ti still gives a great ride.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:48 am 
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I'll keep my Canadian steel ride. :P :P


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