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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:13 am 
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Have you seen the CB Torino on the Facebook Claud / Grubb / Holdsworth group Peachy? Nice clear frame number (24856), and the owner believes it's a 1965 frame.

Also, looks like its in your size :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:17 pm 
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Hi Chris

I picked this one up last night, looking through your superb guide I'm guessing its a November 1956 frame, number 4426 and I think its a Jubilee although there are no pump pegs and no cable stops on the top tube.

And if I've got that right does that make it a receivership black hole frame?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:31 pm 
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Excellent find, but the Jubilee was dropped the year before and had different flutes at the top of the seat stays.
What you have there sir is a fine example of a Buccaneer. Possibly still in it’s original black?

I can’t read the frame number clearly, I assume 5611 4426?

Claud Butler went into receivership in October of 1956, so it’s fair to presume the receivers kept some staff on as it would have attempted to sell off stock, equipment & materials. I presume some frames may well have just needed finishing up.
If this frame is from November 1956, it must be one of the very last real Clauds ever made!

N.B. The metal badge and chromed fork tips would have been “extras” not sure what happened to the top tube guide braze-ons, but perhaps the owner decided he wouldn’t have them and wanted the new Italian style of clips?

Decal layout would have been exactly the same as my Jubilee, but with white down tube Claud signature. All available at H Lloyds


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:19 am 
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Thanks Chris

Yes I should have looked at the catalogues before posting. The paint is in pretty poor condition so sadly I think its going to get stripped but of course then I'll see if there were originally any brazeons on it and if the paint was original.

And yes the frame number is 5611 4426

Also the catalogue picture looks like it has no paint on the forks or are they a different colour? Anyway if I strip them I'll see if they're chrome all the way up.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:03 pm 
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Hello all. I thought it was a good idea to post the photos of this Claud Butler Majestique from the late 70's. I've recently re commissioned the bike that my mum has had since the early 80's. It was bought secondhand and is very original.

It's frame number 016185 and was subject of a complete strip and rebuild earlier this year.

The paint and majority of the components are all original. the only parts that were changed were the rear wheel rim, tyres and bar tape. I think at some point the Brooks Saddle was added and the rear wheel is a 40 spoke campag hub, but the huret / weinmann / GB / Silstar components are all in lovely condition.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:43 pm 
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Nice...
in the 1977-79 paint/graphic finish. They changed it to the Holdsworth block style lettering for 1980-85

Needs adding to dwscrimshaws Holdsworth numbering list...


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:36 pm 
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Here is a guide to serial numbers from Lightweight Cycle Catalogues Volume I

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:51 pm 
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oldyellr wrote:
Here is a guide to serial numbers from Lightweight Cycle Catalogues Volume I



Yes, seen this.... and one of the reasons why I started this thread as although the info at the begining is correct, the last line is completly wrong as there is no confusion over the Holdsworth numbering system which stopped at the end of 1985. by 1986 when Marlboro had ownership of the brand name they had their own numbering system and that example isnt it. the 1964 reference is miles out......


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:12 pm 
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I recently bought a gold coloured Claud butler bike which was retrieved from a barn ,it's serial number is 037330 . It is 5 speed.decals are stickers crankset is solida 52 42 .brakes are landar. Could anyone suggest a model and year exactly .I really hope you can help.i can post photos if that helps.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:28 pm 
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mulcahyronan wrote:
I recently bought a gold coloured Claud butler bike which was retrieved from a barn ,it's serial number is 037330 . It is 5 speed.decals are stickers crankset is solida 52 42 .brakes are landar. Could anyone suggest a model and year exactly .I really hope you can help.i can post photos if that helps.


The number is from 1981 and if the Gold is original, probably a Majestic, although that was 10 speed in 1981 as was the rest of the range except for the Cresta which came as either 5 or 10, but that was blue….. pictures are good…


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