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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:52 pm 
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@Mysteron. Any more pics of the bike, looks interesting :)


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:23 pm 
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Hi all,

A bit of help if you can please?

Met a guy out on a local VCC ride at the weekend who had recently acquired a Lowes Water Holdsworth in very good original condition. It may be from the 80’s. Unfortunately no photos, bit it is in a dark semi-metallic blue with white decals, the seat stays are not wrapped over. Decals are in white with Holdsworth on the top tube, Lowes Water on the down tube and Shimano on the seat tube.

He believes that the stamped in frame number is; 0S70137172 but the sticker adjacent to it states that the frame is built to BS610211 and the printed frame number is OR 0285627

Can anyone shed any light on what this might be?

Thanks in anticipation

Gus


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:48 pm 
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I personally have not heard of these before, but a quick google seems to suggest they are from the 80's and could well be after the Marlboro take over of Holdworth and post the traditional 6 digit frame numbers. After the 6 digit system ended the numbering is very odd with no obvious system. It could well be that these Lowes Water frame had their own numbering system. I hope other can help further with this.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:31 am 
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Many thanks Dave

Gus


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:29 am 
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Dave,

Attached photo of the frame, does it align to any particular model?

I’ll try and get some others from the owner

Thanks

Gus


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Photo of frame, does align to any particular model? I’ll try and get some better ones from the owner. Thanks

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:57 pm 
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Difficult to say from that picture, still thing this is post Malborogh take over. if that top tube is sloping down towards the seat tube and with the extend tube above the lug, that all looks more modern that the models in the Malborogh range. that crank set too looks very 80's/90's.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:22 pm 
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As DWS says, definitely post 'original' Holdsworth and also Marlboro's 1 year (very late 1985 - very early 1987) ownership of the brand.
So it's a "Holdsworth badged" Falcon and looks almost identical to the Claud Butler Professional (also made by Falcon) from 1994 although that used 7005 Aluminium not steel.
Do you know what material this is?
Could it be TIG welded Cr-mo steel? as that appeared around 1996 in the Claud range...



N.B. previously not discussed on here back in 2012.....
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