Vintage touring bike... What make is it ?
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originalshinkicker
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Nice bike, no idea what it is. Love the brakes, but is it bent? Top and down tube look bent and head angle looks very steep? Or is it all just camera angles?
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If the hubs too rusty then there should be a date number on the Williams chainring. Can help date it but could have been changed at some point in its life. The fork crown detail I've seen and can't remember. Lugs look like Ekla but can't find exactly. Tops of the seat stays unusual. Is it lightweight?
Simon
If the hubs too rusty then there should be a date number on the Williams chainring. Can help date it but could have been changed at some point in its life. The fork crown detail I've seen and can't remember. Lugs look like Ekla but can't find exactly. Tops of the seat stays unusual. Is it lightweight?
Simon
The seat stay top eyes are brazed to the ears on the cast seat lug. You are not old enough to remember these Simon.
The head angle has gone up by about 4 degrees, what a pity.
Typical 1938/39, but the same components were use early post war, and by perhaps a hundred frame builders.
Do not pay to have it painted with that bend in the top and down tubes. Either pull the front forward by lying on the floor and pulling the front wheel, or spend a fortune on it. If you do the first it is unlikely to make it worse, but may not be completely straight. I used to perform this trick free of charge in the 50s for people who relied on their bike to get to work. It was cheaper than shoe leather or buses.
Keith
The head angle has gone up by about 4 degrees, what a pity.
Typical 1938/39, but the same components were use early post war, and by perhaps a hundred frame builders.
Do not pay to have it painted with that bend in the top and down tubes. Either pull the front forward by lying on the floor and pulling the front wheel, or spend a fortune on it. If you do the first it is unlikely to make it worse, but may not be completely straight. I used to perform this trick free of charge in the 50s for people who relied on their bike to get to work. It was cheaper than shoe leather or buses.
Keith
OldTel
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Hi, a difficult one, the ekla lugs were very popular in middle/late 40's, I've seen that deep filed top of the stay, in some North/East East London frames, have you checked for numbers on the BB or drop out, also, the brake bridge was used by a few builders at this time, Grubb and Hills Special come to mind, just some thoughts. Terry
Hi, a difficult one, the ekla lugs were very popular in middle/late 40's, I've seen that deep filed top of the stay, in some North/East East London frames, have you checked for numbers on the BB or drop out, also, the brake bridge was used by a few builders at this time, Grubb and Hills Special come to mind, just some thoughts. Terry
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That's what your looking for with the Williams chainring if you can see it? A T on this one is a 1954 one. I see its got a chain hanger on the right rear seat stay. Detail on the rear dropouts where the seat stays join is a clue.
Grubbs serial numbers were on the head tube at the top and rear of the fork crown.
Like Oldtel says many makers were around London and could be anyone. MacLean jumped to mind at first. I've got a 37 and all Brampton lugs and parts. Hill special possibly Hawkes too but just ideas. No headbadge holes so a transfer for a maker. The joys of investigating
Simon
That's what your looking for with the Williams chainring if you can see it? A T on this one is a 1954 one. I see its got a chain hanger on the right rear seat stay. Detail on the rear dropouts where the seat stays join is a clue.
Grubbs serial numbers were on the head tube at the top and rear of the fork crown.
Like Oldtel says many makers were around London and could be anyone. MacLean jumped to mind at first. I've got a 37 and all Brampton lugs and parts. Hill special possibly Hawkes too but just ideas. No headbadge holes so a transfer for a maker. The joys of investigating
Simon
