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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:49 pm 
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I need to source a 1" integrated or internal headset for an upcoming build for the winter months.

Traditional diameter headtube and 1" threadless forks - what are my options and where to purchase from?

Any input on this gladly welcomed...

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:26 am 
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FINNEY1973 wrote:
I need to source a 1" integrated or internal headset for an upcoming build for the winter months.

Traditional diameter headtube and 1" threadless forks - what are my options and where to purchase from?

Any input on this gladly welcomed...

Cheers


Not many options that I know of. The Campag 1-inch "Hiddenset" system (and its equivalent clones) needs a dedicated design of frame headtube although I think you can use any old 1" threadless fork. More info here:

http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-hel ... -standards

Not sure how easy 1" Hiddensets are to come by these days, although like spare 9 and 8(?) speed cassettes they may be one of these obscure things still made at the Vicenza plant but squirrelled away in a dark corner of the Campag catalogue.

The only other 1" integrated system I know of is the old Vitus/Stronglight threaded one as used on the 992 and ZX1 framesets.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:35 pm 
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What do you mean by "Traditional diameter headtube" do you mean to fit a 1" headset?
As hiddensets never went into "traditional diameter headtubes" they are specially machined.

What frame is it (and pictures might help!)


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:48 pm 
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Campyoldy has a Hiddenset and a threadless campag headset on his stock list.........

Shaun


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:02 pm 
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Cheers guys - had a feeling this one may be a bit of a hunt and also I need to get the spec right. I've had a search around the www and they aren't readily available it seems, which is why I asked - 1" of this type seems to be a short lived specification before 1 1/8 tubes became the norm I assume for ahead stems???

Frame is a TVT - takes a 1" headset. Forks are unbranded 1" alloy steerer on carbon legs (purchased as they were cheap and I'm unlikely to find the original forks that would of been with the frame) with the intention of using a Cinelli Alter stem hence needing a hidden / threadless headset.

I don't know enough about these headsets to make an informed purchase so hence any input & advice is most welcome :)


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:11 pm 
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FINNEY1973 wrote:
Cheers guys - had a feeling this one may be a bit of a hunt and also I need to get the spec right. I've had a search around the www and they aren't readily available it seems, which is why I asked - 1" of this type seems to be a short lived specification before 1 1/8 tubes became the norm I assume for ahead stems???

Frame is a TVT - takes a 1" headset. Forks are unbranded 1" alloy steerer on carbon legs (purchased as they were cheap and I'm unlikely to find the original forks that would of been with the frame) with the intention of using a Cinelli Alter stem hence needing a hidden / threadless headset.

I don't know enough about these headsets to make an informed purchase so hence any input & advice is most welcome :)



am a bit confussed by all this.i thought a hidden headset fitted the bearings inside the headtube.the headtube needs to be flared out and machined by the people who make the frame. surely what you are after is a A head style headset where the steerer tube on the forks is smooth and will be a snug fit in the correct headset, all this will be clamped in place by the allen bolts on the stem.i am fairly sure this is the type of headset you need, you will also need a starnut to bang inside the steerer


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Campagnolo-Re ... 8777783%26


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:18 pm 
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matthew71 wrote:
FINNEY1973 wrote:
Cheers guys - had a feeling this one may be a bit of a hunt and also I need to get the spec right. I've had a search around the www and they aren't readily available it seems, which is why I asked - 1" of this type seems to be a short lived specification before 1 1/8 tubes became the norm I assume for ahead stems???

Frame is a TVT - takes a 1" headset. Forks are unbranded 1" alloy steerer on carbon legs (purchased as they were cheap and I'm unlikely to find the original forks that would of been with the frame) with the intention of using a Cinelli Alter stem hence needing a hidden / threadless headset.

I don't know enough about these headsets to make an informed purchase so hence any input & advice is most welcome :)



am a bit confussed by all this.i thought a hidden headset fitted the bearings inside the headtube.the headtube needs to be flared out and machined by the people who make the frame. surely what you are after is a A head style headset where the steerer tube on the forks is smooth and will be a snug fit in the correct headset, all this will be clamped in place by the allen bolts on the headset.i am fairly sure this is the type of headset you need


Yes, that's the set-up but required in 1" size - everything I see available is 1 1/8th size and hence no good - I want the ahead style headset if it's compatible with a TVT frame and 1" threadless forks - could well be that this won't work and I need to find the correct forks for the frame??


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:28 pm 
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So, do you want an aheadset or a hiddenset?
A picture of the headtube would help!

(Most of the TVTs I can find use a 1" headset or aheadset)


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:34 pm 
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check the link on my post, I edited it as you responded.you will never get a hiddenset to fit it but the rest should be about


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:38 pm 
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http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/HSC ... othreadset



so you have the frame and forks, I have found 2 1" threadless headsets for you :D

dose your ribble gran fondo run a head? it will be the same as that , just in 1 inch


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