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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:43 am 
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Ok, here we go...... The Something Olympic.

It started off as a Dawes Olympic, but that could not be as they didn't make one, so....

The consensus was that it was a Holdsworth as the corner of the badge could just be seen. So i went to collect the Holdsworth Olympic and It was a Holdsworth......... until I started to have a better look.

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Looks like a Holdsworth.
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FB 3 piece hubs, not the Campagnolo GS as first thought, but close enough......

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A bit of a nice result there with the pedals :D

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CLB ALP levers and High life callipers. :D Nice

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Is this the death stem ? It's got got a vertical bolt.

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Interesting.....

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Hmmmmmm...... :?

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:? :?

Continued..........


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:45 am 
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There's more......

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OK, not a Holdsworth then.......

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Claud Butler ??????

What is it? :roll: :roll: :? :?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:07 pm 
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Something continental? The tops of the seat stays look 'foreign', the lugs aren't familiar and the 'Coppi' headset?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:53 am 
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Hmmm, well that's OK I'll use it for the Bravo Scozia and then put the parts on the Super Vigorelli when it comes back from Argos.
How about that stem, is it one of the "Death Stems" or is it safe to use ?

The headset is a Magistroni.

http://www.blackbirdsf.org/magistroni/hs_knurled.html


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:46 pm 
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If you pull the stem out and it has two slots cut in the base of the stem for the expander bolt, then its a 'death stem'.

I thought we had the mystery bike solved. Never seen a W. F. Holdsworth 'Renovated' frame before.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:55 pm 
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The bottom bracket cup looks British, the cast lugs have had a lot of work, but the seat cluster and frame number is very odd.
Some detail pics of fork crown, front and rear ends might help.
So somewhere using british components in a different way, is it possibly Australian, just a suggestion. Did Malvern Star disfigure frames with that sort of frame number?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:15 pm 
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I've not seen a Malvern Star with that type of numbering before.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:35 pm 
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It seems to have typical parts you would use in the UK early 50s, the chainset being a bit dated by then. The FB hubs were the best you could buy.
The solid centre pedals from constrictor were previously made by BSA, and considered second to Chater. So where was the frame made? And by someone who put in a lot of time filing what may be brampton cast lugs.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:15 am 
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Well that's got us all wondering, I did see another renovated Holdsworth transfer on my internet wanderings yesterday, I'll try and find it again....

I think the lugs are these;
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/co ... nents.html

Rear ends are Campagnolo, not sure what the front are.

It's a 1000 miles away again as I'm back home now,so popping to the shed to take a "butchers" is out till December :roll:


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:05 am 
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The Ekla lugs look right, I should have remembered , I have access to 1952 Brown Bros on line.
Also found this: http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Britis ... 1950s..htm
with the number punched on the seat lug in a different style.


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