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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:16 pm 
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Looks like it did have a respray.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:19 pm 
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You're making me seasick with all those upside down photo's.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:47 pm 
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Hi, is there any chance of a photo of the rear brake stay where it joins the chain stay, strangely this will help. As far as the serial number is concerned, has it came from the fork steerer ? There should be one under the bottom bracket, is it the same ? Terry


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:51 pm 
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What does the fork crown look like?

There's a modernised one here with lots of detail in the pictures

http://www.oldbike.eu/museum/1940s/1947 ... -galibier/

unless this is a Condor...


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:24 pm 
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Have checked bottom bracket and although number is a little faded it does match. Photo of rear seat stay/chain stay attached along with fork crown.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:33 pm 
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Hi, the twin plate fork is good, it means we are late forties to early fifties, the rear brake bridge where it meets the chain stay is the photo I'm after, it will help. Attached is a photo of my 1948 Paris TDF fork area which may help. Terry


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:03 pm 
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Campag dropouts look like 1010 from the early 50's.........but they soldiered on for years :)

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:36 pm 
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Some additional pics


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:54 pm 
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The top of the seat stays don't look right for a forties frame to me...


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:22 pm 
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Hi, well I wasn't expecting so many conflicting clues, gavr's correct with those stays and also the plain rear brake bridge, means I believe its not an early one, so where does that leave you, I would start at looking at Jack Taylors, or Tom Board versions, this is a quality frame and time has been taken with it, those bi-laminates are excellent. I will dig around a bit more tomorrow. Terry


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