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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:29 am 
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Any ideas which A&C transfers http://www.hlloydcycles.com/ are likely to be correct for 1948 Stallard Montlhery? Did Stallard ever fit A&C transfers?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:47 am 
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deliquium wrote:
Any ideas which A&C transfers http://www.hlloydcycles.com/ are likely to be correct for 1948 Stallard Montlhery? Did Stallard ever fit A&C transfers?


What leads you to think Stallard used A & P as opposed to the more common (in this early post war period) Reynolds tubes ? A & P was a high quality tubeset, easily as good as 531 (some say superior); and was, by Hobbs of Barbican for example, offered to customers along with Reynolds.

I have several bicycles with A & P tubesets (including HoB).

Hope this helps, but remember many builders did not apply tubing transfers (early Hetchins for example unless the customer specifically asked), as they only made frames from the best quality tubesets.

Jon.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:02 am 
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roadking wrote:
deliquium wrote:
Any ideas which A&C transfers http://www.hlloydcycles.com/ are likely to be correct for 1948 Stallard Montlhery? Did Stallard ever fit A&C transfers?

What leads you to think Stallard used A & P as opposed to the more common (in this early post war period) Reynolds tubes
Jon.


Thanks Jon http://classiclightweights.co.uk/Stallard1948.html shows a frame with a possible tubing transfer under the seatube/headtube cluster. Assumptions of course :roll: Other searches for Percy Stallard mention A&P also.

This is the frame I have - confirmed as a 1948 Montlhery from the frame number

Weight of frame, seatbolt, forks and headset 6lb 4oz


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:10 am 
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Nice frameset.

I would probably go for DP3 in the catalogue, but I don't think the decal on the Stallard on Classic Lightweights is a tubing one.

A & P decals have similiar colourways to the Reynolds ones - i.e black and green.

Cheers, Jon.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:09 pm 
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Not sure how definitive this is , but I have a lugless Claud Butler frame from the same period and there is a clear stamping on the fork steerer, an oval with 'A&P' and then a series of codes , might be worth a look.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:32 pm 
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chipper wrote:
Not sure how definitive this is , but I have a lugless Claud Butler frame from the same period and there is a clear stamping on the fork steerer, an oval with 'A&P' and then a series of codes , might be worth a look.


Hi Chipper,

not quite sure what your point is as you have a CB and the OPs asking about Accles & Pollock tubing related to his Stallard.

However, fyi many Reynolds frames (of that early postwar period) had Accles & Pollock steerers. Your steerer Chipper probably has something like this on it - A&P BST G/13/16 AQ.

Jon.


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