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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Carlton
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:12 am 
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And the more I look at the decal near the headset the more i'm convinced it says clubman. Was this a model in itself? Any details or brochures for a late 70s one? Would it have come in all chrome?


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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Carlton
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:55 pm 
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wherespaultoday wrote:
I've just checked again and there's nothing on either side of the rear stay or on the top of the seat post. I saw on a website that there was a short period in the late 60s where there was just a 7 digit number on the bb.

"From 1968 to 1972 two numbering systems were used. The majority of models had simple numbers, up to seven digits, sometimes with leading zeros, stamped on the left rear dropout, at the top of the seat tube to the rear or under the bottom bracket. I do not have sufficient data to analyse these numbers and relate them to specific years."

http://www.carltoncycles.me.uk/details/dating.htm


Well that places the cycle in 68-72 time period. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Carlton
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:02 pm 
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Between 1968 and 1972 CArlton sort of lost the plot on numbers..........and your frame likely dates from then. Not a Cobra though as that had Crespera lugs (I had one :) )


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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Carlton
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:25 pm 
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This could possibly make it a Criterium.


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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Carlton
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:48 pm 
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Looks a bit like an all chrome International as well.............. Blimey Carlton liked their Chrome / acrillichrome / imichrome :D

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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Carlton
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:16 am 
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Looks a bit like an all chrome International as well.............. Blimey Carlton liked their Chrome / acrillichrome / imichrome :D

Shaun


They did and at time it gets somewhat confusing too.


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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Carlton
PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:33 pm 
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Thanks for all the helpful suggestions guys. The more I look at it the more I think it's probably a Cobra but I have seen that the Internationals made in 1971 had plain lugs. What's confusing me are the olympic rings hear the headset. Unfortunately the writing is really bad. It might say Cobra or something else. Or it might say catalina. Having read that Carlton were using plainer lugs on the international in 71, 72 then it's possible it happened on other models too.

Were the rings only used for the catalina model or for others as well? And does anyone know what the X number after the 7 digit serial means?

I'll try and take more pictures tomorrow in daylight.


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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Carlton
PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:45 pm 
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Ok, just narrowed down the year to late 1972. Does anyone have a UK catalogue for that year.


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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Carlton
PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:59 pm 
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Cobra used Crespera lugs.........I had one and it's not a 70's Cobra.

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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Carlton
PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:50 pm 
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Ok, fair enough a cobra then. Any idea on the rings.


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