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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:40 am 
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A friend at work has a Brooks B15 attached to a Campagnolo seatpost that looks to be far earlier than anything I have seen (end of the eighties bikes are as old as I get). He took it from a raleigh quasar! he got for other parts

The Brooks is a B15, with the patent number stamped in the underside of the frame, the seat post has the old Campagnolo 'script' around the front just below the seat mount.

Just wondering if anyone can help identify the post and give a rough estimate of age? Not sure he is using these for anything, but will find out and if any interest he may well be looking to sell?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:44 pm 
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Hard to identify the post accurately from the pic, but I would guess at Nuovo Record, which Velobase dates from 1969 - 1980s. I'd estimate it's worth £15-20 in that condition.

As per normal though, I could be wrong!


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:51 pm 
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This style of post goes back further than the Nuovo Record era and there are subtile differences that, take a subtle eye, and perhaps a photographic memory to sort but...



I have several including one that is on my '61 Bianchi so I will have a look. But isn't the key to this mystery in the date code on that Brooks? BTW That post should clean up nicely, I have had similar looking ones that are now quite respectable.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:43 pm 
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ok now:

After sleuthing about the Bike Garage I have found the some clues in the post age debate. Since I have an all original bike from 1961, the aforementioned Bianchi, and a similarly untouched 1974 Paramount both with Campagnolo seat posts the clearest difference seems to be the "PATENT CAMPAGNOLO" and post size stamping on the back. The earlier post seen on the left in the photo has smaller font size and is printed higher up on the post also on the later version the engraving seems to be less deep. lastly the newer post is noticeably thinner at the base. Now it is possible that these bike, though original had the posts switched at some point so I am open to debate.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:51 pm 
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To throw another in the post has the campagnolo script at the front but no trace at the rear, rather than being in capitals, will have another good luck at it tomorrow to see


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:21 am 
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you can just see the marking on the front of the post in these pictures;

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thanks for the answers so far


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:28 pm 
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The Brooks saddle has a patent number. That disappears some time in the early 60's (I've seen them on saddles dated A59 - C63). They aren't always dated, but I'd definitely clean up the underside of that cantle plate, especially at the right end (the right end, when the bike is upright, that is).


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:22 pm 
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Take a pic of the Brooks badge as well - it's often a giveaway to the era and you'll sometimes be able to date it to within 5 years purely on that. Here's a pretty good list: http://www.kurtkaminer.com/brooksbadges.html


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