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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:04 pm 
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Any thoughts on which model this is?

126mm rear end, Columbus tubing - came with Campag parts dated '78 to '81 all of which are to be changed to late '80's components. Just wouldn't mind nailing down the frame model.

cheers in advance...


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:28 pm 
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With the three color paint scheme I would definitely say late 80s to early 90s. some catalogs here but no exact match :

http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/

but its a start.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:25 am 
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Interesting - as late as that you think? I had it a bit earlier - external cable routing & 126mm rear spacing & has a pump nipple behind the head-tube. Certainly can't find the exact model. Also Concorde used the exact same colour scheme (one on Saarf's page http://saarf00.files.wordpress.com/2012 ... re-057.jpg ) but those bikes had internal routing and better tubesets. I assume they were made in the same factory?

Mine came with late 70's / early 80's Record Hubs, Seatpost, Nuovo Record Cranks, Super Record Front & Rear Mechs & BB, then Chorus levers, calipers & headset from the late 80's.

All a bit frustrating as I want to put a full matching groupset on.

By the way, some of those scans are superb - great looking bikes, I hadn't quite appreciated the quality of Ciocc - very nice bikes.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:36 am 
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As an aside, I came across Ciocc bikes when the Eastern Europeans came over for races like the milk race. We called them "Chee-ock", only took decades to realise they were called "church".

Nicely built, plenty of chrome with frame panto plus cutout lugs.........splendid :D

Looks late 80's to me....


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:15 pm 
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Ha, easily done - it's only because I read wikipedia which had the pronunciation explained!

Not sure mine's quite up-to standard just yet - got some humbrol's to in-fill the chips & scratches but as for the chrome, well how do I put this - it's on it's ar$e! Completely shot, not a prayer of salvaging it and I paid too much for this so can't justify the monies on re-chroming. Going to tidy it up the best I can and see what it looks like.

Still deliberating which group to go for - SR which would be a bit early for the frame perhaps or Chorus which would perhaps be more period correct?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:06 pm 
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Black stem looks like the wrong era..........maybe look better on one of my 70's steeds :D

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:35 pm 
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Midlife wrote:
Black stem looks like the wrong era..........maybe look better on one of my 70's steeds :D

Shaun


To tie-in with your black Dura Ace fascination per chance Shaun?

In total truth, if I can get the bugger out then I agree, probably would be better served on one your steeds. However, the swine will not budge a mm. Needs headset cap undoing and a dose of plusgas - it's on the to-do list.

It's a good looking stem, sort of purple/black in certain lights.

On a sort of related note - I've got some Dura-Ace 7200 DT levers, end caps & the band-on part but none of the smalls - yours if you want them, absolutely no use to me. One needs a bit of black paint but they're ok all in all.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:24 pm 
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How did you know I have a first gen Shimano fixation :)

I have got a '78 ALAN which I am collecting bits for which is the era for those levers, just not sure if they will fit over the campag braze on's for the frame (I say braze ons but I guess they are glued and screwed). If they will slip over I'll buy them from you:)

Talking of collecting I have always wanted a SABA like Ian Hallam :) My collection started today........I have a SABA Panto'd stem so just the rest to find LOL

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:24 pm 
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double post......


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:51 am 
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Midlife wrote:
How did you know I have a first gen Shimano fixation :)

I have got a '78 ALAN which I am collecting bits for which is the era for those levers, just not sure if they will fit over the campag braze on's for the frame (I say braze ons but I guess they are glued and screwed). If they will slip over I'll buy them from you:)

Talking of collecting I have always wanted a SABA like Ian Hallam :) My collection started today........I have a SABA Panto'd stem so just the rest to find LOL

Shaun


You may have mentioned first gen Dura Ace on a couple of threads??? :wink:

'78 Alan - sounds like a quality project that - pm me your address, i'll get them in the post this week - gratis, i'm not going to use them.

SABA - you'll be eating KP Crisps as well then - didn't they sponsor the SABA team? Italian bikes weren't they?


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