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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:42 pm 
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I've got a raleigh richmond frame which I'm using for a build.

I want to replace the headset so I can use a non-raleigh fork and stem.

Anyone know if I can do this? And if so, some suggestions for a new headset would be good!

Also could do with some tips for removing the pressed on cups.

Cheers

Alex


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:30 pm 
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Raleigh Richmond used a standard 24tpi thread as far as I'm aware. My 27" one certainly is. It is a Worksop coded model, so if your serial number starts with a 'W' it should take non-Raligh bottom bracket and headset. Give it to a bike shop to smack the cups off if you don't have the right kit is my humble advice.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:39 pm 
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Just curious as to why you want to change the forks?

Tange headsets usually have a good price / performance ratio :)

Shaun


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:18 am 
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the chrome on the stock headset is all pitted and has some rusting, plus I don't like the stem that came on the bike, nor the forks a whole lot, so I figure I'll replace them all.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:19 am 
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Yellow_Peril wrote:
Raleigh Richmond used a standard 24tpi thread as far as I'm aware. My 27" one certainly is. It is a Worksop coded model, so if your serial number starts with a 'W' it should take non-Raligh bottom bracket and headset.


So would I be right in thinking that as long as I took the cups off, any standard 1" headset would fit it. It certainly isn't the new larger size.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:42 am 
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Yes a standard 1" headset would fit the Richmond a treat.

Now I am going to get hung by the purists for my next piece of advice but what the hey :lol: :lol: To remove the cups from the frame I use a flat headed punch, but an old fat head screwdriver with a long shaft (Oooer missus :lol: ) will do the job. Just slide it gently down the inside face of the headtube until it contacts the top of the inside collar of the cup, and give it a good sharp tap, with a good size hammer repeat on either side until it pops out :wink: Job done :D

As to the replacement headset depends on what you want and like Tange Passage headsets on Ebay look like great value, BBB do an alloy, sealed bearing one for a reasonable price, and I bought a nice Miche one, aero style and needle bearings for £23 from Wiggle last year :D


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:35 am 
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Ha! I tried the screwdriver method, but it must be in there pretty darn tight, or it's seized or something. Luckily there's a LBS about 20 metres from my front door :D

As for the replacements, the Tanges look good, and i'll check the others out!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:43 am 
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Sounds like the LBS is the best bet then :wink: You have to remember those cups were put in by a machine press about 30 odd years ago so might be pretty tight :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:23 pm 
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When I was mending bikes (1950-60's) we just cut a piece from the top tube of a scrap frame, never failed. The bit of tube could be moved round as the cup moved. For most cycle work light rapid hammering had a better effect than brute force.
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