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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:05 pm 
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Hi tried Sheldon but no joy.

What's the order? Looking at 105 numbering and dura ace, ultegra etc.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:22 pm 
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I will give this a go -

2200
Sora
Tiagra
105
Dura Ace

I have seen a list somewhere - if i find it i will post the link.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:24 pm 
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Thanks. Looking at dual pivots on eBay. All very confusing.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:29 pm 
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OOOOOOO

The list would differ with older group sets too -

there is 600EX, 600 Ultegra (Tri-colour) and possbily 600. I have tri-colour dual pivots on my Van Tuyl and they are excellent.

Generally DA will be the best.

Oh and there is also the DA AX and 600AX too - aero stuff from the early 80's but not dual pivot - parapull. If you want these, expect to pay a fortune for brake hoods - i am speaking from experience there!!! LOL

Richard


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:12 pm 
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:facepalm: Do i have to get levers or will my old Galli ones suffice or is it like cantis and Vs?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:04 pm 
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Shimano had a number of groups over the years that either were short lived or were lower end but Richard has it mostly right other than he left Ultegra/600 out of the initial list. Additionally, like the MTB parts, there is a number assigned to each group and a letter code for each part in the group. For instance RD-6500 is a 9-speed Ultegra rear derailleur. The first number changes to reflect a jump in the group protocol: 5000 is 105; 6000 is Ultegra/600; 7000 is Dura-Ace. As the groups progressed through the years the second number changed to reflect the product's development: 6400, 8-speed Ultegra; 6500 9 speed Ultegra; 6600 10 speed Ultegra. There were exceptions but this will work as a guide line.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:12 pm 
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So 5,6,7 in that order shimano 5700 brakes are mid range (105)?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:16 am 
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5700 would be the newer 105 brakset for the 10 speed group


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:02 am 
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:facepalm: but they still retro fit on anything else like the basso using existing levers?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:13 pm 
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Yes!
There are also some non-series parts like the deeper drop callipers. Groupsets are mainly marketing sprinkled with small component engineering changes.


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