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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:18 pm 
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As an aside there was some Chater-Lea old stock hanging around the bike shop in the mid 70's, very well made .........the best was some cranks made of steel that were hollow :D how on earth they made them I don't know. Quite light though :)

Best of luck with the resto.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:07 pm 
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I've checked the steerer tube and there's nothing there. So definitely no S/N at all on this frame. Could this be of any significance in determining the date of the frame or for any other reason?

I have been given a Cyclo derailleur of the period. I will post a pic of it later this eve - If it turns out to be suitable for this project that would be great.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:03 pm 
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Hi, I wouldn't worry, as indicated it looks around ww2, and as you can imagine it was a difficult time in which to live in, let alone keep a business running and serial numbers/book keeping may of been a bit suspect. Still digging, when I have time. Terry


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:15 pm 
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That's another aspect to this thing I hadn't even thought about. To me 'pre war'/'post war' are chronological terms indicating age as a date would. It's a leap to think about the fact that, yeah, these guys were about to be, were being and had been living through some hellish times. I'm going to think on that for a while...

The derailleur:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/98393534@N ... 480517433/


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:28 pm 
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Nice early benelux cyclo, very early fifties I think, I've not seen that shifter before, very nice. Check the internal distance between the dropouts, you'll need space to fit a freewheel, if you want to use it. Terry


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:53 pm 
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The distance between dropouts is 110-115mm. What would the bike be likely to have been set up with originally if not a freewheel? Single speed? Hub gears?

Anyway, it seems I have an early Cyclo Benelux derailleur and shifter spare!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:18 am 
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Gibson_customs wrote:
The distance between dropouts is 110-115mm. What would the bike be likely to have been set up with originally if not a freewheel? Single speed? Hub gears?

Anyway, it seems I have an early Cyclo Benelux derailleur and shifter spare!


Almost certainly one of the following three:

1. Sturmey Archer hub gear - underrated and aesthetically pleasing on a 40s/50s bicycle.
2. Three speed freewheel and derailleur (my Father had this set up on his tour in France in 1953).
3. Double sided hub with a fixed one side, freewheel the other (or even two fixed or two freewheels).

The Sturmey hub would be my period choice as early derailleurs weren't great when new.

R.O Harrison was trained by Maurice Selbach, and my Grandfather knew Maurice, who was killed whilst riding to work in, I believe, 1935.

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