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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:41 pm 
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This bike is currently on eBay, and even though it has many 3Rensho like qualities, I have never seen these lugs or this fork crown on a 3Rensho. Yoshi Konno did experiment a lot but this seems odd:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:30 pm 
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I guess the giveway would be the dropouts........didn't 3rensho use their own branded dropouts?

Fork crown looks like a filled away Cinelli MC version, 3rensho not my area of expertist though

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:33 pm 
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Yes the Superends, but early 3Rensho frames had Shimano or even Suntour ends. The workmanship on this frame looks very nice but the lugs are just wrong. One of the hallmarks of a 3Rensho is the custom spearpoint lug.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:19 pm 
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Think I have sleuth it out, though I may be the only one who really cares, it is a Cherbium, the bicycle company Yoshi Konno ran with his brother before going it alone as 3Rensho.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:22 pm 
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The brakes are allen key and it looks like a later frame so would have 3renso dropouts?

Looks italian to me with the shorter rear end and slightly more relaxed forks.........

As I said it's not my area of expertise........wonder if the BB is italian ?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:23 pm 
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You posted as I was typing......

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:39 pm 
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Ha very good!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:43 pm 
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....sadly just a little to modern for me otherwise what a nice looking bike, aside from the Cinelli styled seat cluster design which which always looked a bit clunky even 20 years earlier :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:50 pm 
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It is the other way around this frame was made in the late 70s to early 80s. Cheribum, also called Cyclone, was short lived venture from the two Konnos before 3Rensho. Many early 3Rensho bikes have all three decals, Cheribum, Cyclone and 3Rensho.

An exmple:


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