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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:02 pm 
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it's almost a sin to take that stuff and put it on a frame of any kind!!

gorgeous and never surpassed in terms of sheer engineering and artistic beauty..

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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 10:02 am 
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rusty bodie wrote:
it's almost a sin to take that stuff and put it on a frame of any kind!!

gorgeous and never surpassed in terms of sheer engineering and artistic beauty..

8)


All the parts I have are used so I ride them, I can't see that careful use will do any damage (OK the chainring will ware).

If I had an unused group I suspect it would stay that way which in some respects is sad as this stuff was made to be used.

Anyone ever seen one of these?

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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:41 pm 
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Any idea what the original selling price for a 50th anniversary groupset was in 1983?


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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:02 pm 
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Boscarn wrote:
Any idea what the original selling price for a 50th anniversary groupset was in 1983?


I don't know but it is a good question.

I'm told it was about £50 more than the Super Record group of the day ... if anyone knows that ....


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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 12:25 am 
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for some reason i have a figure of around £1000 in my head - it was considerably dearer that super record because of the lovely gold bits, limited run and fancy james bond case.

nice!

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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 11:54 am 
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Boscarn wrote:
Any idea what the original selling price for a 50th anniversary groupset was in 1983?


See http://lanerossi.altervista.org/vintage ... enario.htm

This price in 1983 was 600,000 lira.

In 1983 £1 = 2,300L

That was £260. See http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showth ... p?t=106614

Today(2012) that is £774 so compared to the top of the range groupset now cycling has become more expensive.

Used http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bill ... -1900.html

Note: I have also been advised that the price in the UK for a 50th Group back in the day was £395 ....


So ... we have a range ...


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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:16 pm 
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there's no way that it was £260 for the anniversary groupset - we used to sell a pair of nuovo record cranks for £80 back then!!

either that or my boss was making a ridiculous mark up on his stuff!

hmm..

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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 7:14 pm 
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rusty bodie wrote:
there's no way that it was £260 for the anniversary groupset - we used to sell a pair of nuovo record cranks for £80 back then!!

either that or my boss was making a ridiculous mark up on his stuff!

hmm..

:roll:


Well in 1985 a whole Montello with SR group was 2,050,000, if you factor out the frame (495,000), forks (45,000???), wheels, tubs, bars, stem, saddle ... a group would have perhaps been 30 - 40% of that; which would be 615,000 to 820,000

Seems in the right ball park ...

There must be a scan of a Campagnolo price list on-line somewhere ...

http://www.lejog4amr.co.uk/pinarello/price-list.shtml

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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 7:53 pm 
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I think that I may have found the answer to my own question!
After much firtling, I found a copy of an advert for a 50th anniversary set, the price show is £434, but during the 1980’s it was common to advertise without the dreaded VAT, which I believe was 15% at that time. This makes the selling price £499.

Also, investigation of a copy of 1981 Bike Riders Aids, the Super Record group set was £431.25, this price includes VAT. As the 50th anniversary would have cost more, somebody mentioned £50, add a little inflation and I reckon that would be £500.
Mmm 50th anniversary, £500?


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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:03 pm 
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Good work there ... Can I add that scan to my Webpage?

Where is it from?


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