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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:14 pm 
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A question - if a rim has been used with glue - does the glue have to be removed if you plan to use tape?

Also, re the deep water query - what rims and tape were you using?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:22 am 
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I've always cleaned the rims if they have dried glue on, Boots own brand cheapest nail polish remover does the trick. I have heard of people "refreshing" old glue that's still a bit sticky with solvent.

I was riding on Schwalbe Milano tubs, fixed to Wolber TX Profil 20 rims with Velox Jantex tape


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:53 am 
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bugloss wrote:
bigfatron wrote:
How do cross riders manage in such wet conditions?
Richie

Glue.
Or Glue AND tape. (Belgian method as it is referred to)

Tape isn't really very good. Unless you have a very clean rim and tubs, or brand new, and a very good technique. (for fitting, drying/curing etc) Glue seems to be much more tolerant to variation. Not to say a bad glue job isn't a problem, just seems to be easier to spot.

The tufo extreme stuff is meant to be as good as it gets, but i still wouldn't trust it for CX. Especially if it was muddy/wet. Not so much whilst actually riding, but what the cumulative effect of several wet races and all the cleaning/water etc.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:05 am 
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my comment about cross riders seems to have suggested that I am a cross rider, but no, I'm a road rider only - I just wondered how cross riders who use tape manage, having been told that many use it.

I'll be trying tufo as soon as the postie gets round to delivering it and will report back


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:25 pm 
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bugloss wrote:
Ah, that's a shame, what went wrong?

Richard, watch out you don't cut the stitching that holds the casing together as the tub could peel apart when you're riding it. If you do cut it, sew a knot at that point with proper tub thread.


Hi Bugloss - Have been meaning to get back you.
Decided within a few seconds that the tubular style strategy wasn't for me. I need to be able to change tyres quickly and have no time for gluing tyres to rims.
I have upmost respect for those who continue to fit and use tubular tyres.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:45 pm 
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I bought a pair of Veloflex Roubaix tubulars in May 2013 and glued them on Araya Gold rims.
I have a vintage Nishiki Competition bike.

After about 400 km I had a flat front tubular. Thats ok, no hard feelings.
But I had a closer look on the tubulars:

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/6ohdfj367ziymmx/S_qNsouUjs

They were full of small holes, just waiting for some suitable nasty thing to get through and deflate the tubular. I had been driving on normal paved roads only.

Rennkompressor pump has guaranteed right pressure.

I had been expecting much longer lifetime, front 6000km, rear 3000 says Veloflex.

Seems to me that these tubulars are not made to be driven on a road… maybe a frozen finnish lake in winter would be a surface clean enough? ; ))

I made a reclamation to Veloflex by email in July. Written in english.

No answer.

I sent both tubulars back to the factory.

No answer of any kind.

Late October I sent a reclamation written in italian. Both by email and mail.

Got the answer today:

“the main interest of our products is the grip on the road and not their longevity”


So, if You want to drive more than 400 km, do not buy Veloflex?

After Veloflex I have been driving cheap Conti tubulars on same roads, no visible damage after some 1500km.

Anybody else met these problems with stone- eating Veloflex tubulars?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:49 pm 
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No, but a very interesting point.
I ride on Conti Gatorskins with Continental latex in them, I'm very happy with the result so far.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:33 pm 
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Hi Pekka,

Where did you purchase the tyres? Did you approach them?

I would not be pleased!!!

Richard


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:59 pm 
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I was talking with a fellow RB member at a recent jumble and he said he'd tried the Veloflex clinchers and only got about (I think) 800 mls out of them.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:02 pm 
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Old Ned wrote:
I was talking with a fellow RB member at a recent jumble and he said he'd tried the Veloflex clinchers and only got about (I think) 800 mls out of them.


That's not many miles at all, I'd be very disappointed.


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