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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 3:46 am 
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Hello guys.
I'm brazilian, so... sorry about my english.
I want to restore a bike, I've searched in many forums trying to identify the frame... but I dont found.
Actually I found many bikes with Campagnolo components and design very similar.
I hope you help me.

breaks: weinmann type 500
stem: 3ttt italy
crank: campagnolo strada 170 6 (53/42)
derailleurs: campagnolo nuovo record patent 77
front hub: campagnolo
rear hub: shimano RX100 (I dont know if this is original)

There are two openings in the bb shell and the Serial Number (1138)

Thanks.


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:55 am 
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Looks like a generic late 70's frame standard lugs, dropouts, guides, slotted BB, Cinelli MC fork crown. You might never find the name of the builder.

Mind you those cranks are rare............don't come across many of them :)

Shaun


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:53 pm 
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Agree with Shaun, looks a typical Italian frame, decent components, 32 spoke wheels. Bottom bracket threading might help, or something like 36x24 on the bracket bearing cups.


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:02 pm 
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I sympathize with you Lucio, I had a really nice frame that I tried for years to figure out with no luck. The problem is that there were hundreds of small builders in the classic era and most do not have a following. Still with the serial number there is always a chance. Study the lug styling on similar bikes and see if you can find one that has the same four digit number stamped under the bottom bracket.

Another idea that I thought was really clever. An acquaintance was faced with this same problem and simply made up a name, had decals created and painted the bike and it looked great. You could call it Lucioconsul, done up in a Campagnolo like script, stunning.



Steven


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:49 pm 
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Ah Yes.....putting your name on the bike. more common BITD.

Eddy Mercx, Maertens, Hugh Bantel.............................Paul Gittins (Retrobike) :)

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=194571

Shaun


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:44 pm 
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Midlife wrote:
Ah Yes.....putting your name on the bike. more common BITD.

Eddy Mercx, Maertens, Hugh Bantel.............................Paul Gittins (Retrobike) :)

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=194571

Shaun


Who?? Some old sad attention seeking hasbeen I reckon................................ :?

Agree on the chainset, never seen one in the flesh, rare.


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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 4:27 am 
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I found some very similar bikes.
Some because of the holes under the bottom bracket, others because of details in the frame. But I dont have a verdict. I need to unmount it but the head tube is very locked.

- Raleigh Competition GS. The chainset, campagnolo parts and some details:
http://s59.photobucket.com/user/firstfl ... ort=3&o=21
http://flickeflu.com/set/72157622877327944

- Abeni(?), Reynolds frame. The holes under the bb:
http://www.bicycles.net.au/forums/viewt ... 1&p=710726

- Jan Janssen's frame. Very very similar, but I dont know de others components, and cant see de serial number:
http://bike-vintage.com/frame-and-fork/ ... drops.html

- Cinneli, to confuse me:
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk21 ... 011266.jpg

- Vail(?). the same chainset and campagnolo parts:
http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2007/cc313 ... l0507.html

- Gios, to confuse me:
http://www.raydobbins.com/ebay/bike-gios/photo_48.jpg

I found a similar Flandria too but lost the link.

I do not know what else to search, but thank you anyway.


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