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Builders who made both frames and components?

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lewisfoto

Post subject: Builders who made both frames and components?

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:20 pm

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Out of curiosity how many bike builders over the years made frames and complete groups so that you could have a whole bike by one company?

I can only think of one: Zeus.

Schwinn I think made most of the parts on the cruisers and middle weights, but I am more interested in vintage lightweights. Cinelli doesn't count because they never made a complete group.

So can you add to the list?

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foz

Post subject: Re: Builders who made both frames and components?

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:46 pm

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Peugeot used a lot of simplex parts re-branded as their own, I don't think it counts 100% but is pretty close.

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Some Guy

Post subject: Re: Builders who made both frames and components?

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:14 pm

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Raleigh? Although I'm not really thinking about their lightweight models..

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vivelesalpes

Post subject: Re: Builders who made both frames and components?

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:32 pm

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IIRC Gipiemme came fairly close.

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lewisfoto

Post subject: Re: Builders who made both frames and components?

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:32 pm

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This is what got me on the subject...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Zeus-fr ... 2891708%26

sorry if this should be in the ebay area but seemed relevant

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roadking

Post subject: English Builder made frames and components.

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:03 am

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Hobbs of Barbican sold a range of light alloy components (branded Lytaloy) after WW2 ended, they made headsets, bottom brackets, chainsets, pedals and brakesets, mudguards and handlebars.

Hobbs had always been innovators and the experience gained during WW2 (war work) gained valuable expertise (and extra capacity) that they could bring to bear in peacetime.

There was also a steel shortage, so aluminium made sense as a material.

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bagpuss

Post subject: Re: Builders who made both frames and components?

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:17 am

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BSA, Birmingham.Gears,frames, pedals,Chain sets,hubs.http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/co ... _hubs.html
Chater le, London.frames,Chain sets,pedals,hubs.
Sun lightweights, Birmingham, Frames,brakes and other components.
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anagrama

Post subject: Re: Builders who made both frames and components?

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:08 pm

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Suntour, anyone? Obviously not actually manufactured by them, but this Superbe-branded frame was a new one on me...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0827031234

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Jonny69

Post subject: Re: Builders who made both frames and components?

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:55 pm

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Viscount tried to make all their own parts and I'm pretty sure everything on their original Aerospace models were made in-house. I think it just became too expensive after a while, when you could buy everything from Shimano, Campagnolo etc for less for better.

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