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 Post subject: dawes id please
PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:14 pm 
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can anybody id this dawes frame and forks ,mish mash of kit?
http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt19 ... 66025f.jpg
http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt19 ... 26965c.jpg
http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt19 ... c0c104.jpg


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 Post subject: Re: dawes id please
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:18 am 
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Lol - I'd thought about sticking a bid on that so I asked the vendor a couple of questions:

1) Any chance of a picture from around the head tube area - I was wondering what the brown bit of the paintwork at the top of the forks is.
2) Can you confirm that the frame is straight, rust free and without cracks or dents? It looks slightly like the forks might be bent back in the photo but the angle and the fit of the mudguards could be causing that. I'm interested in the bike but the frame does need to be undamaged.

This is the reply:

Hi there, the bike is for spares or full refurb. Regards Julie.

I decided that wasn't good enough for a trip to St Helens even if it was only a tenner! Ironically, your pics would have sold it to me!!

Glad to see it looks straight. I'd assumed it was a Sterling or vogue from around 1991-2. I have the 1991 Catalogue and the bikes in that have the solid infilled lettering on them. I think the outline lettering was a year or two later. The Vogue in particular seems to have the same touring twin chainset but in 1991 that had caliper brakes. Otherwise it isn't far off - even the clamp on DT shifters appear to be Vogue spec. Unfortunately, the pic in the catalogue of the gents frame is thumbnail so you can't see the lugs. The Womens frame does have fancier fork crown lugs than the Horizon and Galaxy Reynolds ones.

So, it might be a Vogue. If it was, it would date from 1991 or 2 I guess. After the 1991 model year (ie 1990) the Vogue would have needed to have moved from 500 to 531 and gone from calipers to cantilevers and retained relatively old fashioned lugs (which I suppose is possible if they had stocks of them). Aside from the lugs, nothing looks out of place for a Dawes Tourer of this time.

I did Google Dawes Vogue when I was looking at this one but didn't find anything conclusive.

1991 my spec is:

500 main tubes, vertical dropouts, Sachs Classic 1500 mechs, Stronglight 80 14 speed double.


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 Post subject: Re: dawes id please
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:41 pm 
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thanks for the info,i tuck a chance on it,the frame has had a repair.its got nice brooks and a stronglite crank,paid a bit more than a tenner,on the chance it beeing a galaxy ect,i wanted nice bargin touring work horse i may use the parts and sell the frame forks,dont know yet

cheers :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: dawes id please
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:48 pm 
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If you are after getting rid of the frame I might be interested. I wanted a scruffy frame I could swap the parts from my Dawes Horizon onto (written off by a right turning Smidsy) so I could have a winter commuter to be less precious about. Frame onlys mostly seem to go for too much (eg scruffy Horizon for £53 when I've seen nice and complete bikes fail at £70). I was interested in that one as I thought it might go cheap but really I don't want another complete bike.

If it's a sound frame and cheap (because I've just spent way to much on a Randonneur!) it might be what I need.


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 Post subject: Re: dawes id please
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:43 pm 
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pm,ing about frame


Last edited by bulldog on Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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 Post subject: Re: dawes id please
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:52 pm 
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Top tube looks iffy....


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 Post subject: Re: dawes id please
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:56 pm 
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Tel wrote:
Top tube looks iffy....


striped for parts,like i said been repaired not by me?
pm,ed rolf about frame,edited,not for sale sec :oops:

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