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 Post subject: Aheadset issues
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:38 am 
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Another question you.

I have an integrated aheadset on my kinesis cross bike.

It keeps coming loose and if I tighten it too much, I can't steer.

The front of the bike feels weird, I can't let go of the bars .

Is it the aheadset? Wheel not centred properly?

Driving me nuts.


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 Post subject: Re: Aheadset issues
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:47 pm 
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Headset , lower bearing is worn/seized.Could also be a mismatch or incorrect parts fitted ,there my guesses without seeing it .


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 Post subject: Re: Aheadset issues
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:51 pm 
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Something might be upside down in there, but if its coming loose, a bit of fibre grip gel between the steerer and stem once its all snugged up might help.
Just swinging on the top cap bolt until you can't steer won't fix anything.


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 Post subject: Re: Aheadset issues
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:54 pm 
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Oh, the stock kinesis headsets are rubbish. We've currently got 4 kinesis frames, two fitted with mudguards before they were ever ridden and two "race day only" cx bikes. None of the headsets lasted more than a handful of months before the bottom race seized. Even filling the cups with grease before hand doesn't work.

(and if you've over tightened it, you may have destroyed/brinnelled the bearings, will leave you with an indexed headset.)


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 Post subject: Re: Aheadset issues
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:33 pm 
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Thanks for the advice.

Went to get a new headset, but would not fit in the frame.
Old one is a Cane Creek, with sealed bearing at the top and loose balls in a cage at the bottom. Trouble is that there is a part which is seized into the frame in the bottom cup.


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 Post subject: Re: Aheadset issues
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:31 pm 
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On the social ride last night, on of the guys was saying he was having an issue with his Hewitt. If he tightened the headset up he got "notchy" steering, but if he loosened it off so it was smooth the fork actually moved in the headset.

After a bit of reading he found that the bearings were put in the wrong way round, easy enough to do as the instructions are vague and not very clear. One side has a 45degree angle on it and one side is straight. Flipping one of the bearing over (the top set) made it better, but he now needs to drop the forks out and do the bottom set.


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 Post subject: Re: Aheadset issues
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:55 am 
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Thanks for all the advice, bought a new aheadset and it is fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Aheadset issues
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:38 am 
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cchris2lou wrote:
Thanks for the advice.

Went to get a new headset, but would not fit in the frame.
Old one is a Cane Creek, with sealed bearing at the top and loose balls in a cage at the bottom. Trouble is that there is a part which is seized into the frame in the bottom cup.
I think this is your problem, loose balls in a cage are probably an exploded cartridge bearing.... The wife's Cane Creek did the same (twice, on two bikes).
Don't think Cane Creek do a caged ball headset.


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 Post subject: Re: Aheadset issues
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:38 pm 
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was a pain to get the cage out , a bit nervous about using a dremmel into a headtube . first ride this morning and it works a treat .
but snapped the chain !


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