Retrobike Forum Index

It is currently Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:45 pm

* Login   * Register * Search  * FAQ



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 44 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:03 pm 
Old School Hero
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:28 am
Posts: 200
thanks guys.....yup, i agree. Having looked at quite a few flyers on the net, i think its too close not to be. Looking forward to taking it for a test ride........Then think about restoration, re-spray and decals ect.

have tried to date the frame using this site bit no luck: http://www.carltoncycles.me.uk/details/dating.htm


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:15 pm 
Old School Grand Master
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:41 pm
Posts: 8241
Location: Cumbria
Think they started using those lugs in the mid 50's, looks like the Flyer with close clearances which was sometime after.

Not ridden Old Neds Flyer but rode a lot of Carltons in the 70's including an all chrome flyer track built for my boss at the bike shop were I worked.

Carltons always had a nice ride, even the cheap ones. Tight enough angles and shortish rake forks make them feel nimble but easy to ride hands off and OK on long rides.

Think Carlton....... think Chrome, Flam and panels :D

Shaun


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:53 pm 
Retro Guru

Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:07 pm
Posts: 1321
Location: Cotswolds
Looks to me a bit special. No brakes, heavy seat tube, and Campagnolo ends were about 1958 on.
Crimped chainstay, was this done by the builder? Interesting to look up the tubes from the bottom bracket, are they pinned? And odd frame number, so is looking less like a Carlton.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:53 pm 
Old School Hero
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:28 am
Posts: 200
I would love it to be all chrome under the paint..... I saw one a few months back. very nice......

I think it is maybe 70's (73 14)?

This flyer is from 1956. It has the same stylings as mine, but with relaxed angles and larger clearances.
Image

What is Flam and panels shaun?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:59 pm 
Old School Hero
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:28 am
Posts: 200
keithglos wrote:
Looks to me a bit special. No brakes, heavy seat tube, and Campagnolo ends were about 1958 on.
Crimped chainstay, was this done by the builder? Interesting to look up the tubes from the bottom bracket, are they pinned? And odd frame number, so is looking less like a Carlton.


this is an interesting view point..... the frame number is the thing thats throwing me.....

will try and look down the tubes if i can.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:18 pm 
Retro Guru

Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:07 pm
Posts: 1321
Location: Cotswolds
Your example from 1956 is typical of the time, high bottom bracket, mudguard eyes, clubman bike for time trialling, track and grass track, riding to work in the winter.
A major purchase then, and had to do it all.
Yours is a purpose built hard track bike, possibly ridden on Australian roads. Riding with no brakes here in 1958 could be treated a bit seriously, although I did occasionally in the late 1940's.
Does the crimped chainstay look like Reynolds work, or hand done.
And rear width must be 120mm.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:40 pm 
Old School Hero
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:28 am
Posts: 200
This is a picture of the chain stay, i would guess that it was hand done? maybe.
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:42 pm 
rider | rBoTM Winner
rider | rBoTM Winner
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:42 pm
Posts: 5132
Location: Wakefield, Yorkshire
Don't forget the Alec Bird frame with Capella lugs that was on here recently. Perhaps it is from a small builder who used a set of Capella lugs bought through the trade?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:14 am 
Retro Guru

Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:07 pm
Posts: 1321
Location: Cotswolds
My general feeling on the crimped chainstay is "post production". I can't see Reynolds making it like that.
When the job was to put various parts together to work effectively I often had to do minor modifications and regretfully some like this.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:20 am 
Old School Hero
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:28 am
Posts: 200
just had a look at the Alec Bird thread. such a nice frame!

Due to the frame number i am am leaning in the direction of a small builder using Carlton old stock. What would type of lugs used on my frame be called? Anyone know of any other frames that have used them?


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 44 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: glpinxit, keithglos, Midlife, mydadscondor, Tgb55 and 22 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

About Us

Follow Retrobike

Other cool stuff

All content © 2005-2015 Retrobike unless otherwise stated.
Cookies Policy.
bikedeals - the best bike deals in one place
FatCOGS - Fat Chance Owner's Group

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group