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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:23 pm 

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Hi, this is my first post in this forum, i am looking for some advice from some of you seasoned pro's for buying some more modern components for my beloved Peugoet Aubisque. It is going to a medium budget restoration.

My areas of focus for the resto:
-New wheel set
-New brake set
-New cables throughout
-New saddle (touring)
-New rear cassette
-New chain

My first port of call is upgrading the wheels, as the current set, which i believe are original, are truly shot and beyond repair. I am looking for a pair of strong, good value wheels, ideally quick release, which brings me onto another point. Can quick release wheels be retro-fitted to a frame which originally had bolted axles? I ask this because on my modern road bike, the quick release wheels sit in a sort of recess in the front forks and also in the rear A-frame, is this purely for ease of getting the wheel aligned straight or it is a necessity to stop the wheels popping off?

Another consideration i need to factor in when purchasing wheels in that i would like to keep the bike 12 speed or perhaps upgrade to 14 speed, i need to buying a rear wheel which allows for a 6 or 7 speed cassette? I have also read that spacers are sometimes required depending on what wheels are being used?

I would like to keep the standard sach-huret rear derailleur for the time being, i know it isn't high end and is old but it has been very reliable, i love the old style 'suicide shifters' located on the down tube and because it isn't indexed it gives me flexibility on my rear cassette choice for the time being, providing the working range is wide enough.

For upgrading the brakes, i am currently looking at a pair of well priced tektro dual pivot caliper brakes, i think these will be easy to retrofit onto the bike, if not, could someone point this out. ... rc=froogle

For the chain i am looking at a KMC 6/7/8 chain, which i have had good experience with in the past, i have no specific saddle in mind at the moment and cables will be replaced and sleeves throughly cleaned inside and out.

Thanks for your time and all comments/suggestions are welcome.
Regards, James.

PS. I will upload some photos for reference when i log onto my other pc

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:28 am 
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I believe some people call the recesses in the dropouts "lawyer lips". I don't think they are restricted to QR wheels and I'm pretty sure neither of my 80s bikes with QR wheels has them.

How modern do you want your wheels? Your bike will have a freewheel (not a cassette), whereas modern wheels will have a freehub (which uses a cassette). If you buy a freewheel type wheel you shouldn't have to alter the spacing on your frame and you can transfer your existing freewheel over for now. I think it's well worth buying a freewheel removal tool, especially if you are planning to change the gearing later.

I fitted Suntour derailleurs (Vx rear and Compe-V front) and shifters to my Dawes and the improvement was striking. The action is much lighter and more accurate and they look as if they are meant to be there. They can be picked up reasonably cheaply on eBay if you are patient, and fitted one at a time as you acquire them.

To fit modern brakes you will have to drill out the mounting hole on the "exit" side front and rear. The bolts don't go all the way through and are secured by tube nuts.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:14 pm 
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Also, you frame's rear dropouts may well have 126mm spacing. Modern stuff is 130mm. It is possible to still find dual pivot brakes with nut fittings rather that the ones described above. I have a set of 105 brakes on the bike I have just built.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:36 pm 
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Sounds fun - it's always very satisfying to repair and.or upgrade an old calssic like that!

Firstly, Bob (above) is right, you can fit QR wheels to your frame, the recesses are a design feature of later bikes and are not needed. No bike in the '80s had this feature.

With the wheels, you've got a choice to make:

Option1: Buy a back wheel with a rear hub that accepts a screw-on freewheel (as Bob says this is not a cassette) which is what your bike would have had when new. You can either buy new or second hand but either way make sure it's alloy, not chromed steel.

Option2: Upgrade to a modern wheel set with freehub that accepts a slide-on cassette with lockring.

Option 1 wins you points for originality and the ease of like-for like replacement. Option 2 gives you a wider choice of gear ratios and the possibility of fitting a 8,9 or 10 speed cassette. I had this choice to make with my every day Raleigh and decided to forego originality and go with option 2.

If you're feeling flush and would like a very flashy pair of Option 2 wheels then I can heartily recommend a set of these - I've had a set on my Raleigh for the past 3 years and they've been superb - light and extremely strong. Much cheaper wheels are, of course, available!!!

As noted above, your rear dropouts may be too narrowly spaced for modern wheels but it being a steel frame, you may well find that you can just expand the dropouts a tad to get the wheel in - classic steel frames have a bit of give in them.

Once you've decided if you're going with a freewheel or cassette, you can then select a suitable chain and the KMC brand is very good.

In terms of brakes, you've got a pretty big choice - a set of Weinmann 80's alloy ones would look original, or you could go with a set of Weinmann centre-pull calipers with the relevant fittings to your seatbolt and stem. Otherwise all manner of more modern brakes will just bolt on.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:00 pm 
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Piece of trivia I thought I'd chuck in re. the OP's comments - in the Netherlands at least it would appear that that year's model came with QR hubs as standard:

Might be a useful point of reference anyway for saddle colour/style, bar tape colour, etc.


PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:40 pm 

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Thanks for your feedback, you have put me straight with the terminology i didn't get right which i appreciate and has helped me to understand the possible niggles i may encounter with retro fitted components. This advice is definitely food for thought and is much appreciated :)

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