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 Post subject: Hobbs of Barbican Frame
PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:42 am 
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Hi,

I found this frame in my mother's loft, it's been in there for years, my Dad had forgotten he put it up there.

He said he was given it years ago and doesn't know anything about its history.

I have looked online for some information about Hobbs of Barbican and know a little about the company and what they did.

But I would really like to know more about this frame if anyone can help?

Thanks,

http://photos.readynas.com/Gardners_8184/jenin/a%3d7


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:20 am 
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Wow! It's going to need some restoration but imagine the results. Have a look on the classic lightweights website to try to identify it? Sorry not a Hobbs expert but the idea of restoring that is interesting.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:33 am 
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Hi, lovely old frame, a good restoration would have that looking the business, have a wander around http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/hobbs.html and http://freespace.virgin.net/hobbs_of.barbican/ .To date it ( and then get the model ) you'll need to get the frame number, so you'll have to gently clean up that dropout. Terry


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:56 am 
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I can help here, I have a few Hobbs (one bought new by family member in 1952), the model depicted is a Clubweight and is of welded or fillet brazed construction (i.e without lugs - lugless). It will be constructed from either Accles and Pollock Kromo tubing or Reynolds 531 - both are excellent tubesets.

It is a postwar frame, with the number I can date it, the frame is missing its seat tube collar - this enables the set post to be tightened in the frame. Hobbs did not build frames after 1953.

What is a very rare and superb thing is the brass and glass enamelled headbadge, few frames seem to have this (mine have, see image).

Hope this helps.

Roadking.

P.S Hobbs badge is not my"best"Hobbs - simply a spare one!


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:34 pm 
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Oh I see just his spare Hobbs!!......Im jealous :(


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:00 pm 
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Great info thanks chaps.

I will have to get a wire brush to the frame number on that drop out.

Another couple of things my dad remembers,

He remembers putting those forks on it so they are not the original and he was under the impression that they are not the right ones for it?

The crank set and brakes are obviously not the original.

My mother seemed keen to sell the frame if I can find a buyer.

Would it be worth restoring before selling, or just selling as it is?

What sort of cost would I be looking at for restoring the frame?

Thanks


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 Post subject: Hobbs of Barbican Frame
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:43 pm 
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My suggestion would be to sell as is.

A correct and authentic restoration including transfers would be at least £120 - £150 (possibly more).

Roadking.

P.S forks will have same number (stamped on steerer) as frame, so easy to confirm their provenance.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:58 pm 
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Managed to clean up the area of the frame number.

I have taken a photo of it;

http://photos.readynas.com/Gardners_8184/?k=uhNKg&i=104&sz=H

Looks like B7726 to me.

Can anyone translate this?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:12 am 
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ninarin wrote:
Managed to clean up the area of the frame number.

I have taken a photo of it;

http://photos.readynas.com/Gardners_8184/?k=uhNKg&i=104&sz=H

Looks like B7726 to me.

Can anyone translate this?


Based on that number the frame's date is February 1947.

Roadking.


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