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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:38 pm 
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I picked up this chrome frame off ebay sometime last year and just stuck it in my shed forgetting about it. When I was bidding on it the seller was under the impression that it was a Chas Roberts due to the head badge. I knew this wasn't the case but the frame did intrigue me.

I know nothing of the head badge and can't find anything about it through searching. The head badge either says GR or RG, not sure which one. I have been looking at a list of frame builders names in the UK and can't find anything that fits. Help is appreciated.

The components date to the 60s. The brakes are GB Coureur '66' centre pulls which date to around 1961(?) The brake levers appear to be GB/Altenburger dating from 1964(?), the saddle could be Lycett L. 15 Saddle (1960s) and the Campagnolo Gran Sport derailleur dates from 50s+, not sure how to date this as it's extremely rusty.

Any ideas on what this could be?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:50 pm 
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That looks like a Carlton early 60t's , I think the badge looks a bit home made .


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:56 pm 
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chipper wrote:
That looks like a Carlton early 60t's , I think the badge looks a bit home made .


I Agree the badge does look a bit home made, so it could be a replacement ? But not so sure about it being a Carlton, did they make bikes with wrap around seat stays?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:03 pm 
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Looks like a chromed Carlton International........... not sure they did them in all chrome though.

Is there a frame number anywhere?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:11 pm 
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Midlife wrote:
Looks like a chromed Carlton International........... not sure they did them in all chrome though.

Is there a frame number anywhere?

Shaun


Doh, I knew I forgot a picture, cheers


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:14 pm 
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The lugs are pretty plain on this and looking at other Carlton Internationals they have very fancy lugs


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:16 pm 
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7 digit number (ignore the other) could place it as a pre-1973 carlton when they started the two letter prefix numbers.

A shed load of Carltons had the wrap round seat cluster.....even mt Carlton Cobra all chrome :D

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:19 pm 
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Looks to me like a Sun Worksop.

Ive just sold one on ebay, was advertised here also, ill link some pictures through so you can compare.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:21 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:21 pm 
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http://www.carltoncycles.me.uk/mybikes/ ... tional.htm

1971 carlton international had quite plain lugs.

Sun / Worksop possible as an Ersatz Carlton.

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