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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:54 am 
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After a couple of new builds, merckx and pinarello concept, ive run out of cash but still not sure what to do with this colnago master pui.

Ive heard that there was a craze in the states, a few years ago, for letting top marque steel bikes go rusty INTENTIONALLY then they would lacquer over with silica type spray, thus stopping the oxidisation and stopping the rust in its tracks. Is this true? If so, this might be my solution (for now until i can afford proper repsray). The rust will prob continue but at a very small pace? Enough to last my lifetime?

Whats everyones thoughts on this?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:22 pm 
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I think the American's who did that must have more money than sense.

If you need to save up to do a proper job, then do that. Letting the frame rust, even just a little, is a dangerous game, as many frame tubes are extremely thin to start with, and it will only take a little too much rusting to produce a hole. After that you are in an entirely different world, cost wise.

In addition, striping the paint and letting the frame rust is going to reduce the value of the frame substantially, and possibly permanently. If you want a steel road frame to wreck, then I'm sure I can find one for you, which I will quite happily swap for you Colnago frame :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:27 pm 
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NeilM wrote:
I think the American's who did that must have more money than sense.

If you need to save up to do a proper job, then do that. Letting the frame rust, even just a little, is a dangerous game, as many frame tubes are extremely thin to start with, and it will only take a little too much rusting to produce a hole. After that you are in an entirely different world, cost wise.

In addition, striping the paint and letting the frame rust is going to reduce the value of the frame substantially, and possibly permanently. If you want a steel road frame to wreck, then I'm sure I can find one for you, which I will quite happily swap for you Colnago frame :wink:


I hope i didnt infer i wanted to rust the whole nag! I mean, i wanted to just treat the area as shown on the above with some sort of rust preventer. Maybe i could remove the surface rust first.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:36 pm 
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boggy wrote:
After a couple of new builds, merckx and pinarello concept, ive run out of cash but still not sure what to do with this colnago master pui.

Ive heard that there was a craze in the states, a few years ago, for letting top marque steel bikes go rusty INTENTIONALLY then they would lacquer over with silica type spray, thus stopping the oxidisation and stopping the rust in its tracks. Is this true? If so, this might be my solution (for now until i can afford proper repsray). The rust will prob continue but at a very small pace? Enough to last my lifetime?

Whats everyones thoughts on this?


Well, they say rust never sleeps but if you keep the frame indoors and warm and dry the rust will be as good as asleep. As for the paintwork I'm in agreement with everyone else that its to good to respray, its only original once :lol:

I'd look for a custom airbrush painter, they should be able to strip back the badly chipped area and feather in a new section. They will be able to mix a near perfect match and if its done right it should be all but invisible.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:24 am 
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God it's hard to find someone local who will do this touch up. Think chips away may be best bet!!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:43 am 
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Could be worth getting this guys opinion:

http://www.bobfalconer.co.uk/

Where are you based? It would be worth posting to the right man for the job :)


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:05 am 
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I'm based in portsmouth but willing to travel upto 20 mile. I have contacted couple if airbrushers locally but either don't respond or stop communicating after initial email. So obviously they must be busy at moment.

Last resort is to go back to c&g finishers and just get top tube repAinted one colour. They did fantastic job on my pinarello. Even lined the panto areas without asking me or even charging me. They even polished up the chrome areas! really recommend them


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:57 am 
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boggy wrote:
I'm based in portsmouth but willing to travel upto 20 mile. I have contacted couple if airbrushers locally but either don't respond or stop communicating after initial email. So obviously they must be busy at moment.

Last resort is to go back to c&g finishers and just get top tube repAinted one colour. They did fantastic job on my pinarello. Even lined the panto areas without asking me or even charging me. They even polished up the chrome areas! really recommend them


If you want to get the whole thing refinished, for intricate paint jobs it might be worth getting in touch with Neill Shankland at Atlantic Boulevard (http://www.atlantic-boulevard.co.uk/). Not cheap by any means, but they arrange the collection & delivery regardless of UK mainland location provided you strip the bike down and box up the frame yourself.

David


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:28 am 
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David B wrote:
boggy wrote:
I'm based in portsmouth but willing to travel upto 20 mile. I have contacted couple if airbrushers locally but either don't respond or stop communicating after initial email. So obviously they must be busy at moment.

Last resort is to go back to c&g finishers and just get top tube repAinted one colour. They did fantastic job on my pinarello. Even lined the panto areas without asking me or even charging me. They even polished up the chrome areas! really recommend them


If you want to get the whole thing refinished, for intricate paint jobs it might be worth getting in touch with Neill Shankland at Atlantic Boulevard (http://www.atlantic-boulevard.co.uk/). Not cheap by any means, but they arrange the collection & delivery regardless of UK mainland location provided you strip the bike down and box up the frame yourself.

David


Hi, already had quote of £350 from them. Thanks anyway


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:16 pm 
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£350! Ouch they are based ten minutes from me and was contemplating asking for a quote... Clear varnish over scrapes and rust sounds a bit more likely!


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