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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:37 am 
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I am a little confused. I have recently acquired a second Gran Course frame from 1984 (both the same year), they both have 531c tubing, but one has Gipiemme dropouts front and rear and one has Campagnolo dropouts front and rear - I know these were frame only options in the '84 catalogue (stated as Gipiemme dropouts), but why would Raleigh have used different dropouts?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:47 pm 
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Very late reply sorry but just to say my Gran Course has Campag dropouts as well, I think all we are seeing here is proof these are hand built frames, for some reason lost to the sands of time the person building these decided to do something a bit different on at least a couple of them.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:09 pm 
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This is one i sold a couple of weeks ago

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Chromed GIPEMME


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:31 pm 
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As davkt said, I think this is down to what was 'at hand' at the Lightweight unit in Nottingham when these were being built

English craftsmanship at it's best :-)


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:56 pm 
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http://www.bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalo ... l84_15.jpg


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:07 pm 
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MrW wrote:
As davkt said, I think this is down to what was 'at hand' at the Lightweight unit in Nottingham when these were being built

English craftsmanship at it's best :-)


Yup, whatever the dropouts they still makes a great fun ride! I know round the web some folks complain it is very twitchy handling, sure it is more lively than something with a longer wheelbase but its a race frame not a tourer and ride it like you mean it and it is perfectly predictable.
With 28mm gatorskins, cheapest 28mm innertubes I could find and a Brooks B17 mine is only 10.3kg, and it isn't a particularly light build, it was my dream bike when I first started work in the mid 80s but parts were more about affordability than weight! Mostly 105/RX100 with a few other bits and bobs as well.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:09 pm 
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Always liked the paint scheme

The 'lesser' Quasar was very similar


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:38 pm 
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MrW wrote:
As davkt said, I think this is down to what was 'at hand' at the Lightweight unit in Nottingham when these were being built

English craftsmanship at it's best :-)


You can see them at work here...


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:04 pm 
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Bats wrote:
You can see them at work here...


Well it was good enough for Team USA in 1984! Yes they lost their way big time but in the late 70s and early to mid 80s Raleigh were one of the top bike makers in the world.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... eam%29.jpg


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:21 pm 
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Telling me raleigh used to be really good is like telling a bloke with no legs that he'd be comfier sitting down.


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