thanks for comments all
well unfortunately i don't have a year to mature my tyres, of the right "vintage".
these are going on a bike rebuild that, in all honesty, probably wont get ridden any more than the occasional weekend cruise, as the daily bike will get more use. so i'm not looking to spend a fortune on acquiring the best tyres around, and furthermore, buying them for next year. (let alone clearing out my wine cellar to store them
i will look at the milanos and the conty giro's and see where how i go. also obviously i should probably buy 3 tyres to begin with.
also gum/natural wall IS a criteria...
anyone know where to get the rubber and alley lashes to put under the saddle to carry spare?
Tan wall tubs are lighter, prettier, but also more fragile. As the thread is not covered with rubber, they get scuffed very easily... I destroyed a set of Vittoria SC by just jumping on a few cobbles... while I run the entire retroronde on the Vittoria CX no problem...
As I said, invest in the CX, they are truly amazing tyres, worth every penny... fast, robust, can be fixed, excellent grip, light... 20 pounds tubulars can be OK, but they are just cheap tubulars which will let you down, in a way or another.