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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:38 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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Am beginning to wonder if I have an early 753 main frame, I just weighed the whole bike complete with the heavy wheels and freewheel, am amazed at how light it all is. The whole lot came in at an astounding 9.12kg or 20lb 1.7oz, I checked it all 3 times and came out with same result, the frame is approx 23" and doesn't have the lightest of components.

The frame handle so well and is a lovely ride, it was certainly build for speed, sadly I'm not :oops:

The gear levers don't have braze-ons but have a small raised piece to stop the clamp from slipping. Will have a browse through some Bob Jackson's to see if anything stands out.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:50 pm 
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The small braze on to stop a band on friction gear lever slipping down the tube is a bit tricky in that this was a marker of a frame lower than the top frame....

Two choices are the frame was destined to be a frame to show off the full range of campag band on items (Viking / Falcon/ Holdsworth) or it's a cheaper frame in the range.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:32 pm 
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Closet I have come so far is a red Carlton, lug work and forks seem right but the rear stays are wrong, also this has eyes for mudguards. Perhaps I should give up trawling through 1000's of pictures in the hope of finding a match, better I go out and ride the beast :D


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:43 pm 
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not any carlton I recognise....the Giro d'italia had shot in stays but they tapered, the Professional also had shot in stays like yours but they went into a definate Lug........

I'd ride it :D

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:52 pm 
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Have just come up with a 70's Flying Scot, more than a few similarities with this one. As far as I can tell stays, forks and lugs are a very good match. Anyone else agree with me?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23666168@N04/7366571878/in/photostream/lightbox/


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:31 pm 
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That flying scott has fullysloping crown and yours is memi slopiong as far as I can tell. Do touy shot in stays touch at the top ?

Easy to tell if its a Rattray frame......he kept ther numbers and can be contacted.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:48 am 
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A few final shots of lug work and I will call it a day, this is proving to be a bit of an enigma.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:01 am 
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I have a similar frame I am trying to identify.
The seat post clamp - is it recessed on the right for a socket head bolt and threaded on the left ?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:29 pm 
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That looks like a bit later frame, the cable runs on top of the top tube and the Brake bolt look like they are allen key and no nutted. I bet the mech cables go under the bottom bracket.

And Yes, the seat clamp is tightened by an allen key bolt recessed into the clamp.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:02 pm 
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Here's the cluster on my Cliff Shrubb built frameset, badged Geoffrey Butler (but probably built for Jenson), bought new by a friend of my Dad's (rescued from his skip).

Cliff Shrubb has confirmed it's one of his as did the original buyer.

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