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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:18 pm 
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Didn't think you could buy anything but the frames and you had to fit your own stuff.

We never built up frames as complete bikes as it would be "dead" stock.......

Don't tell the owner how much you could flog it for either :D

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:47 pm 
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I think this has more to do with the UK based Raleigh-Weinmann team.

http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/bu ... lders.html

My guess is it's a training version of the team frame, with mudguard eyes and bigger clearances.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:40 pm 
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Forgot about the Raleigh-Weinmann mob.

I usually associate Weinmann with the Carlton-Weinmann team of a few years earlier. Mick Benet, Reg Smith and Big Trevor Bull. Trevor's sideburns were *way* beter than Wiggo's LOL

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:46 pm 
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Hi all,

Had some interesting feedback from A Raleigh bike forum expert. It would appear that the bike was possibly a custom build for a specific customer - I've been told it could have even been made as a one off special for someone close to the Raleigh sbdu workshop.... Looks like it definitely isn't a mixed bag of parts, which does fall in line with what I know of its history so far.

I'm going to do a bit more investigation into how the family came to own the bike twenty something years ago.

Its amazing how much information people know on these forums!

Thanks.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:18 pm 
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Scoobydaz wrote:
Hi all,
Had some interesting feedback from A Raleigh bike forum expert. It would appear that the bike was possibly a custom build for a specific customer - I've been told it could have even been made as a one off special for someone close to the Raleigh sbdu workshop.... Looks like it definitely isn't a mixed bag of parts, which does fall in line with what I know of its history so far.
I'm going to do a bit more investigation into how the family came to own the bike twenty something years ago.
Its amazing how much information people know on these forums!
Thanks.


Having just seen this thread I thought I would add my thoughts...firstly the SBDU only did custom builds - they are all therefore"one-offs".
It is a mixed bag of parts, the SBDU did not make or sell complete bicycles - framesets only.
I've never seen an SBDU frame with simplex dropouts or mudguard eyes...this doesn't mean it's super valuable so don't get excited! I'll have a look in my SBDU catalogue to see if this specification was listed - the 753 sticker throws me off a bit: mudguard eyes on a 753 frame!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:46 pm 
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According to (1984 Raleigh brochure):
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/bu ... lders5.jpg

the Raleigh-Weinmann team frames had Simplex dropouts.

I suspect there was a deal with Chicken and Son to supply the parts; they imported Simplex, Weinmann, Maillard, Sedis components.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:26 pm 
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fiks wrote:
According to (1984 Raleigh brochure):
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/bu ... lders5.jpg

the Raleigh-Weinmann team frames had Simplex dropouts.

I suspect there was a deal with Chicken and Son to supply the parts; they imported Simplex, Weinmann, Maillard, Sedis components.


Many thanks,

you've quoted me - my article on CL!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:27 pm 
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http://www.chickencycles.co.uk/brands.php

R J Chicken had a bit of a stranglehold on some 70's cycle kit.... bloomin nightmare 40 years ago :)

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