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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:49 pm 
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I have just noticed tonight that the rear lug pictured near the cassette has 'Campagnolo' stamped on the frame which I have never seen before on a frame.

Also I dusted off the scales and weighed each bike as surely a 753 should be much lighter ??

I weigh 13 Stone 4

Holding 753 Bike it comes in at 15 Stone 3
Holding 531 Bike it comes in at 15 Stone 4
Holding Banana it comes in at 15 Stone 9

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:59 pm 
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roadking wrote:
Call me Job's comforter but I'm a little cynical about this frame.

Why? 753 + chrome...to my knowledge a decent builder would not chrome 753, for example it was a no-no in the SBDU.

Agree with Ned though, ride it.

Roadking.


Thinking about it the Seller (2nd Owner) must of asked for the chrome when he had the frame enameled.


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Forged dropouts were often marked with the manufacturers name, Campagnolo, Gipiemme etc. As is the Botom bracket (which is manufactured by Tange)......... I wonder if the 753 sticker is a "ringer" ?

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Midlife wrote:
Forged dropouts were often marked with the manufacturers name, Campagnolo, Gipiemme etc. As is the Botom bracket (which is manufactured by Tange)......... I wonder if the 753 sticker is a "ringer" ?

Shaun


The retired seller seemed a genuine bloke with 2 other tasty bikes in his collection and lots of cycling memorabilia on the walls.

Visiting 2 local specialists today to see what they think.


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A Tange BB shell with Reynolds tubing is very unusual :?

Makes me wonder about the Reynolds decal.


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Robbied196 wrote:
A Tange BB shell with Reynolds tubing is very unusual :?

Makes me wonder about the Reynolds decal.


Managed to see one of the specialist's who has some seriously nice vintage bikes in near mint condition. All the bikes were soaked in high end campagnolo parts.

He believes the bike is a 753 frame as the headset fitted is Campagnolo Super Record and has that different noise flicking the frame compared to normal 531 frames.

Perhaps the seller removed all the original decals when he had the frame enameled and put different style 753 decals on the bike.


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Location: Completely in the dark, thanks to me good mate Terry....
Also, isn't the 753 seat tube inside diameter different to 531 (27.0mm not 27.2mm) or is that just on the very early batches of tubesets from the mid 70s?

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David B wrote:
Also, isn't the 753 seat tube inside diameter different to 531...
Aaargh! Don't talk to me about tube diameters! Tel's last post links to a Bikeforums thread, which is very informative but the upshot is: anything goes...


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I emailed the seller again just to see if he could shed anymore light on the bike. This is what he came back with.

The chroming was already on the bike, so when I had it re-enamelled I asked the guy doing it to make sure the chrome was intact!

The 753 decal was replaced when the frame was re-enamelled. The original colour of the frame was white, although it was not 'pearl white', more of a chalk white colour.

It could well have been Knight, but I can't be certain. The bike itself seemed to be fairly 'known' about in local club circles when I bought it, and certainly when I did the one and only Bungay Town Race on it ( I think that was 1991), the guy checking over the machine actually recognised it!


I hope to see Paul @ Life Cycles Saturday to see if he can shed anymore light on the bike.


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