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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:51 pm 
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Hi, first post from newbie, so please go easy.

I was wondering if anyone could help me with a query over a Dalesman frame. I am currently selling, what I think is, a 1980's Dalesman, which has a sticker stating the frame is made from 531c tubing. Unfortunately, I do not know any of the history of the bike, as I have only just acquired it (long story, but made novice mistakes with sizing).

I have been informed by a well meaning third party that Dalesman frames from this era were made from 531st tubing and not 531c. I have since tried to check this out, and the specification in old brochures I have managed to find seem to back this up.

Has anyone come across a Dalesman with 531c tubing?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:32 pm 
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Welcome to the forum. As far as I know your friend is correct and they were 531ST and not 531C. Has it been repainted? Might just be the wrong tubing sticker.

Some photos would be appreciated.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:49 pm 
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Hi Rich34,

Not wishing to push this, but the easiest way of showing you the spec and photos is to give you the ebay link....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Claud-Butler- ... 3cc7a5b93b

You could well be right about a previous owner putting the wrong sticker on. However, the frame has not recently been resprayed, as it is in need of a bit of tlc, and the Reynolds sticker (shown in photo 3), and some of the other stickers are partly worn.

Any further views welcomed.
Thanks.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:09 pm 
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Hmmm, from what I can see it looks original enough. I expect someone more knowledgeable than me will be along in a moment. Good luck with the sale at any rate.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:48 am 
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oldsnow i have been watching this since start might sneak a bid in before end depends how high it goes


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:50 pm 
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Hi Biggs682,

I hope the possible confusion over the frame tubing spec doesn't put you off. I understand that both 531c and 531st comprise good quality frames.

Let me know if you need any further info.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:10 pm 
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Although it's a bit after my time didn't Reynolds rename their tubing between 1993-95 ?...............

531 Double butted merged with 531c
531 Superlight (SL) became 531 Pro

Is that where the confusion might be or am I confused as well LOL


Shaun


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:08 pm 
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Hi Shaun,

I had thought this bike was a little older - probably mid-1980s looking at the style of the stickers, frame paint colour and some of the remaining original components, such as the brakes, crank, seat post etc. However, I may be out with this.
I did read that there was some sort of consolidation in the early 1990s, when I think the company was taken over.

Thanks for the suggestion.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:40 am 
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Midlife wrote:
Although it's a bit after my time didn't Reynolds rename their tubing between 1993-95 ?...............

531 Double butted merged with 531c
531 Superlight (SL) became 531 Pro

Is that where the confusion might be or am I confused as well LOL


Shaun


In the 93-95 era the decals were different again I think (as per the tube decal on my Ribble), and any reference to TI plus the "Guaranteed Built With...." blurb and Tyseley address was dropped from the design. 531 SL/Pro had already made way for 653 before then.

David


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