half cog wrote:
You sure thats an Alec Bird only its got Carlton Capella lugs. It may well be but I thought those lugs where Carltons own. If someone knows different then please say as they may well be used by other companies and that is something I was not aware of
In answer to you [Peter] and Shaun.....i bought this from LFGSS.. and the frame number 529....and 'EO' is also stamped on the BB...seat lug uses an AF 7/32'' AK.....Here is the thread: http://www.lfgss.com/thread82055.html
Is there any significance to the letters EO?
A few people because of the Capella lugs took it as a rebadged Carlton but not Saxby's contribution 'the Cappella lugs on the description made me think it probably just a re-badged Carlton but looking at the photo's that fork rake and rear wheel clearance is so typical of Alec Bird's builds, beautiful frame indeed
Perhaps it was a late AB frame....When did he stop making frames? When did Carlton stop making frames with Capella lugs?.....if the Carlton stopped before AB...Carlton might have sold their stock including their Capella lugs and according to what i know about AB he liked doing deals and might have got a good deal on Carlton frame building stock...just a theory.
But i recently 'had' a Holdsworth that really was a Claud Butler [a Holdsworthy CB]....so is it an AB?.....This one is a keeper as it is a perfect size for me!
I will research the Carlton link....i will call Dave Marsh...he worked at Carlton's...plus there are Carlton forums...which i will contact....and report back.