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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:17 pm 
Onnnne Huuuunnnndrreeed and Eigggghhhhty

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Hello

As you may have seen elsewhere, I've just picked up a new road bike with a weird mix of components on it. The frame, mechs, bars, stem, seatpost etc are from the late 80s/early 90s, but the wheels are a mystery - they're Mavic MA2s laced to Pelissier hubs of the type shown below (I'm not with the bike at the moment, so I've used the only picture I could find on the net with the same script-type logo). The hubs made of alloy and are smooth and silent. The rear uses a screw-on freewheel, currently a 7 speed. I can find very little information on Pelissier products (I've been on Velobase and Classic Rendezvous) and I wondered if anyone on here could shed some more light?

Thanks

Andrew
(photo used from http://arupdesigns.co.uk/blog/archives/472)


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:55 pm 
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You've probably heard of Henri Pélissier - I think he won the Tour way back in the 20s.

I'm not sure when, but a company named after him started making nice hubs. That company got absorbed by Maillard, who then got absorbed by Sachs.

I don't know how special your hubs are, although they look pretty nice. Maillard was certainly making 'low-end' hubs in the 70's and 80's, though they probably only branded the high-end stuff 'Pelissier'. Yours look 'high-end' i.e. they could well be as good as Record. Certainly worth keeping, and looking after !

The MA2s are nothing special though.

Good luck researching all this.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:31 pm 
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Ive got a what appear to be the same hubs on some rigida rims on an an old carlton that i have in pieces all over the garage. i couldnt find much about them when I started looking a few months ago, other than what 1988_ben has stated. if you find anything out i'd be interested. cheers


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:35 pm 
Onnnne Huuuunnnndrreeed and Eigggghhhhty

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Thanks for that Ben - I'm not sure how they ended up on this bike!

I've actually got a low end Sachs Maillard hub on the back of the Argos and it's not the greatest. The Pelissiers do feel buttery smooth by comparison - most of the info I've found so far relates to 1000/2000 models, which carry a more modern logo. From what I can tell, my type of logo was used throughout the 60s and had gone by the 80s. All a bit vague...


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:46 pm 
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In Gallery 2 there is a catalogue on the very nice Professional 2000 hubs :)


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:00 pm 
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http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2007/04 ... -hubs.html

this contains a bit of history.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:30 pm 
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i have used many a bike with plessier hubs on always worked very well and never gave any trouble at all , so get a thumbs up from me


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:57 pm 
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Maillard, Pelissier, Atom, Normandy (and Milremo which could be anything!) all appear to me to have come out of the same factory. Is this correct or am I guessing wrong! Eponimous French brands that were in common use even when other French brands weren't.

Pelissier seem to have been a better quality item of the group.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:36 pm 
Onnnne Huuuunnnndrreeed and Eigggghhhhty

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Thanks all for the replies-M.Pellisier certainly sounds quite a 'character'...
From looking around,I get the feeling mine are very much the bread and butter model.Those 2000s do look lovely and they'd be a better match for the rest of the bike,I feel as though I need newer wheels or an older frame...


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