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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:03 pm 
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I just saw this for sale, seller says its light and he thinks it was called jim something.

It looks 1950's ish from the crank and the wrap over seat stays.

old carlton maybe? under all that?

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any help appreciated


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:04 pm 
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Hi, the wrapover stay, the rear brake bridge, and pump braze ons on the top tube all point to a late sixties / early seventies carlton. The model clues would be under the paint ( i.e. semi chromed fork, lug shape ) and checkout the web resources on carltons. A rough guess - carlton corsa / continental, tube wise nothing special but a good retro bike. The crank is a raleigh which means you will be stuck with raleigh products in that area if you rebuild. Check out http://www.carltoncycles.me.uk/home.htm thanks Terry


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:13 pm 
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ANy chance of a better picture?

The chainwheel 'cob-web' design points to the 1970s.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:00 pm 
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Im thinking its a late 60/early 70's carlton.

that should make it 531, shouldnt it?[/img]


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:42 pm 
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could be jim soens liverpool
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/calendar.html
check out this link only jim i know if so would be 531 for sure
sorry follow the link for classic frame builders to "s" for soens
although he does list "french tubing" for the club model which i take was super vitus


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:03 pm 
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bit weird the jim bit, the brakes, lugs and seat stay all scream carlton to be honest.


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THE FRAME HAS CRESPERA LUGS.

Its been respray obviously and could be a number of models, although the one-piece chainwheel points to a Continental, it did not have centre pulls around this time.

Might be an old International, is there chrome beneath the fork tips?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:08 pm 
Old School Hero

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I cant tell you anymore at present lads as I was finding out a bit about it before purchasing.

it comes with two wheels as well,Which I presume are just the originals but no tyres.

wanted £75, I reckon £50 is about right as it'll need a full bare metal strip and rebuild.

What you reckon?

I breath easier once that bar tape is off and that horrible paint is off the frame lol


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:16 pm 
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Not a bad price, looking at the pics it has a Simplex lever which may well point to a Criterium possibly a Cobra, but then the chrome would show through under the paintwork.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:28 pm 
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if I strip the paint with nitromorse would that mess with any chrome under?


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