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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:26 pm 
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Just for fun.

I'd like to know where (the city) and when (the year) the attached picture was taken. Bonus points for naming the riders, and pertinent comments about their equipment.

One guess per person per day.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:23 pm 
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How about Moscow 1980?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:43 pm 
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Nope!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:00 pm 
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Looks like C-Record cranks, so later that 1985-6.


No tri bars, so before 1990 or so.

Looks like an outdoor track, so probably not the world champs.


My guess is Seoul Olympics 1988.

The only Soviet pursuit rider I can name is Ekimov.

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Steel frames with "Masi" stickers.
Bars attached to fork crown.
Front and rear disc wheels, possibly same sized front and back.
Internal or hidden headset.
Addias Merckx shoes, the later version with red and white stripes for the first three riders, and the older version with white stripes for the last rider.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:49 pm 
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Some good points, but no cigar. Wrong city, wrong year.

You get a gold star for Eki though.

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Can you tell me which one of the four he is?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:15 am 
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127 views and only two guesses?

C'mon fellas, how hard can it be?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:43 am 
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1989 Lyon France 4000m team pursuit, USSR, silver medal. Winner East Germany.
Evgenyi Berzin, Viatcheslav Ekimov, Dmitri Nelubin, Mihail Orlov

Ekimov is last, with blue Masi-bike. Made from True Temper tubing.
It was probably made by Russian-company Takhion and only put Masi stickers on it.

Front wheel is 650C

Russian made Fluidisc-wheels ;)


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:39 pm 
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Shamus gets the cigar!

This is indeed the 1989 World Championship, held in Lyon at the vélodrome de la tête d'or.

Here's Ekimov, the only one of the four not to use a disk front wheel:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nztony/4855824324/

Berzin had only just celebrated his nineteenth birthday.

I think you're correct about the Masi-badged Takhions as well. Masi had begun to supply team bikes to the Soviet road race squad, but as far as I know the pursuit bikes were still built in Karkhov.

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/80048824@N00/2267611840/

The photo sequence here shows the unusual construction of the headset, with a conventional lower cup, and a cartridge upper bearing pressed directly into the frame:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40365317@N ... otostream/

I'd come across the first picture four years ago on the old fixed-gear mailing list and decided that it must have been from the 1989 Worlds in Lyon, but couldn't find supporting evidence at the time. I recently surfed to this photoset, confirming my guess:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nztony/set ... 641851616/


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:15 pm 
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one-eyed_jim wrote:
Shamus gets the cigar!

This is indeed the 1989 World Championship, held in Lyon at the vélodrome de la tête d'or.

Here's Ekimov, the only one of the four not to use a disk front wheel:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nztony/4855824324/

Berzin had only just celebrated his nineteenth birthday.

I think you're correct about the Masi-badged Takhions as well. Masi had begun to supply team bikes to the Soviet road race squad, but as far as I know the pursuit bikes were still built in Karkhov.

Image
http://www.flickr.com/photos/80048824@N00/2267611840/

The photo sequence here shows the unusual construction of the headset, with a conventional lower cup, and a cartridge upper bearing pressed directly into the frame:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40365317@N ... otostream/

I'd come across the first picture four years ago on the old fixed-gear mailing list and decided that it must have been from the 1989 Worlds in Lyon, but couldn't find supporting evidence at the time. I recently surfed to this photoset, confirming my guess:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nztony/set ... 641851616/


Thanks for all that Jim, very interesting shots of the frame etc. I also like the set of shots of the champs, especially our Colin's starting effort.

I knew him when he were 'nobbut a lad.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:47 pm 
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Thanks Ned. There's a huge amount of detail to enjoy in nztony's pictures. Here's another one of the Russians from his "misc cycling" folder:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nztony/348 ... 195964897/

It's interesting to see all the little individual differences in bikes and kit, especially the different, custom bars for each rider. The funny thing is that most of them could've got the same position with a conventional frame and a dropped cowhorn bar.

Note that these pictures can't be from the same heat as the first mystery picture: Ekimov's got a front disk wheel.


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