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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:40 pm 
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Hey, this is my first proper post here although i've been a browser for a while now. I picked up a bike today for £20 and it turns out to be rather old... After doing some research I would place it around 1948. The frame number is 10344, and based on http://www.nkilgariff.com/HoldsModelPages/LaQuelda.htm, I suspect it is a La Quelda. Please if anyone has any info on these bikes, I would love to know.
It also has some interesting parts, including a Kingfisher saddle which I can't find anything on, and a Campagnolo Gran Sport rear deraileur. If this is original on the bike it would make it a very early model...
Here are some pictures to aid in identifying it, and if you recognise the model please tell me :D
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Anyways, thanks in advance for any info, and please say if there are any details i've left out,
Luke


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:10 am 
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Cant see much, the pics are a little too big and need to show the bike more complete. Look interesting though, the Gran Sport mech is later than 1948.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:20 pm 
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Ive resized the photos, an will take some more of the whole bike in a while.
When do you think that Gran Sport is from then? I say 1948 because at the time, they were making about 1500 a year and in 1946 the numbers were at 6000. The beginning of 1948 would have brought 9000 and gone up to around 10500.

Once I get some more pictures up could anyone give me a rough idea of value. Will it be worth restoring it or selling as-is (with a clean up)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:36 pm 
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Ok, here are some better photos of the whole bike:
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Hope this helps,
Thanks again guys,
Luke


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:08 pm 
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lclements wrote:
Ive resized the photos, an will take some more of the whole bike in a while.
When do you think that Gran Sport is from then? I say 1948 because at the time, they were making about 1500 a year and in 1946 the numbers were at 6000. The beginning of 1948 would have brought 9000 and gone up to around 10500.
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According to Velobase, the Gran Sport was produced from 1952, onwards.

http://www.velobase.com/ListComponentGallery.aspx?Offset=2&GroupBy=Brand


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:11 pm 
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So this could be fitted later then? Or could it be earlier than '52?

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You may be able to date it from the Williams crank it has. If you get the code off the back of the crank or chainring and have a look on a date table here..
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/wi ... ating.html


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:12 pm 
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is the campag gear lever bent, or was that how they were back then?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:50 pm 
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sadly the lever is bent, and the rubber is not in great condition. Thanks for the info on the crank, I will check that out when I get a chance.
Regardless of year however does anyone else think it is a La Quelda? If not what other frame could it be.
Thanks for interest so far,
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despite the condition, its a interesting mount.


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