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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:12 pm 
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Hi everyone
This is a recent barn find
Very lightweight,Ron Spencer of warrington decals
Can anyone identify the frame,tubing etc
Maybe the frame builder!!!
The first thing i noticed was the shot-in seat stays
It has very nice spearpoint lugs
Brev Campagnolo front and rear dropouts
The frame has the original matching sloping crown forks
Frame number on the underside of bottom bracket ( F3537 ) this is also stamped on the fork steerer tube
I have enquired with ron spencer shop in warrington,but very little help!!
The rear dropout measures 126.OLN
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:16 pm 
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More photos
Pleas note headbadge was originally fitted to this frame
3 holes apparent in the photo!!!
Any ideas
I can measure the distance of the holes c-c
Thanks


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:53 pm 
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I'm going to start following you around, these barn's :) .
Another really nice find, i'm afraid i can't help with any
info though.
Mike.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:57 pm 
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Hi Mike
I've scoured the internet for some clues,but to no avail
It really is anice light bike,close clearances etc
I'll keep my fingers crossed
It looks like a quality build
I removed the components earlier today
the only noticeable parts was the rear Campag Croce'd Aune mech
Malc


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:34 am 
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I reccomend you ring up spencers in warrington, ron has been there since the start, andd can ID alot of things, and he has full books of written reciepts going back years..


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:54 am 
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I'd guess about 1968, just from the stays and fork crown.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:57 am 
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My first thought was a 1970s Raleigh Professional:

http://media.photobucket.com/image/rale ... G_7156.jpg

http://velospace.org/node/7415

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The serial number is of the correct format for an early-seventies Pro. The crown is right, and the shot-in stays fit more-or-less. But although some of the details match, there are enough differences (particularly in the braze-ons) to make that seem unlikely. I suppose it's possible it was modified prior to repainting. Have you got a closeup of the rear derailleur cable stop on the chainstay?

Whatever it is, with chromed Campag dropouts it's got pedigree, and it's almost certain to be 531db I'd say.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:41 am 
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Here are some more photos
It really does ook like a raleigh professional


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:16 pm 
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If it was a Raleigh, I was expecting to see a spherical "diver's helmet" cable stop. But looking more closely at a few early-seventies Professionals on the web it seems that that wasn't used until later. Sorry to give you extra work to do!

There look to be enough variations in the details of lug profiles and so on from year to year that I think it's quite plausibly a Raleigh Professional with added braze-ons. A nice find!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:45 pm 
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Steve Kish reckons it could be a 1968


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