Retrobike Forum Index

It is currently Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:33 am

* Login   * Register * Search  * FAQ



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:52 pm 
Old School Hero

Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:45 am
Posts: 210
I just acquired an old path bike that I'm trying to find out some background on.

It's been repainted by Bob Jackson in yellow. The bloke I bought it off said it had the remainders of the original decals on, but they were falling off... he could kind of make out a few letters that he thought may have read 'Wilkinson' or something similar. It did have the original 531 sticker on it, so I know it's 531 tubing.

The bottom bracket has 18805 stamped on it, and then 187 upside down from that.

Here's some pics of the frame detail (if you click 'all sizes' you can get bigger pics):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/39642960@N ... 259546501/

One concern I do have is that the underside of the bottom bracket is flat, kind of like a big dent, but it is such a perfect dent that it seems like it's supposed to be like that. It's right where the serial number is. Could it have been from the force of the stamping the serial number? Or is this just how the frame is? It's a strange place to have such a dent, as the cranks will always prevent anything from hitting....?

Here's a pic, it's blurry but you can see the shape of the tubing quite well:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39642960@N07/4746017064/


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:45 pm 
Retro Guru

Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:50 pm
Posts: 444
Location: Sheffield
I'd say the seat stays look like Holdsworth's.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:12 pm 
rider | rBoTM Winner
rider | rBoTM Winner
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:42 pm
Posts: 5133
Location: Wakefield, Yorkshire
desmondo wrote:
I'd say the seat stays look like Holdsworth's.


Or a Viking like on my old Severn Valley.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:14 pm 
Old School Hero

Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:45 am
Posts: 210
Ahhhh Viking does sound about right... he said he could see a W and a maybe L, maybe K. Viking could have been mistaken for Wilkinson quite easily if most of it was missing!!

Any ideas on whether the bottom bracket dent/shape is anything to be concerned about?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:37 pm 
Dirt Disciple
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:18 am
Posts: 63
Location: Cheddar
I've got a similar era Viking path frame and the lugs and seat stays are far simpler. If you look on classic lightweights there is a page on identifying frames from their frame number, I think its in the restoration section.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:13 pm 
Old School Hero

Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:45 am
Posts: 210
Hmmm.. the classic lightweights reference doesn't really help too much, it just narrows it down to about 10 different makers! Viking is in there though.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:14 pm 
Old School Hero

Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:45 am
Posts: 210
What's the frame no on your Viking?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:56 am 
Dirt Disciple
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:18 am
Posts: 63
Location: Cheddar
My frame No. is 11369 but is stamped on the rear dropout, not on the BB shell. I wasn't too sure how much that website would help, just thought it might rule out some makes. As there is more than one number on the BB one of these might be information relating to the frame size or lug details.
Good luck in your search though looks nice from what I can see of it.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:04 pm 
Old School Hero

Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:45 am
Posts: 210
Thanks for your help though, really appreciate it.

Have you seen bottom bracket shells that are mis-shaped like this before?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: w.f.holdsworth zephyr
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:50 pm 
Dirt Disciple

Joined: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:08 am
Posts: 21
Location: gloucester
hi..looks like a W.F. HOLDSWORTH model .. ZEPHYR ..sold one last year if i remember that seat cluster and lug pattern dates it within a few years..google it & see what comes up..good luck :D


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 12 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

About Us

Follow Retrobike

Other cool stuff

All content © 2005-2015 Retrobike unless otherwise stated.
Cookies Policy.
bikedeals - the best bike deals in one place
FatCOGS - Fat Chance Owner's Group

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group