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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:49 pm 
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I looked at that and thought Raleigh Record Ace from years ago..... But it's not. It looks familiar though.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:56 pm 
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Just looked with a magnifying glass, frame number I gave you was wrong (63536 AA), it is 93536 AA. Maybe this helps align the dates? (But not it seems the position of the frame number on the frame tube)


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:21 pm 
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Pap wrote:
Just looked with a magnifying glass, frame number I gave you was wrong (63536 AA), it is 93536 AA. Maybe this helps align the dates? (But not it seems the position of the frame number on the frame tube)


Unfortunately no, the Holdsworthy CB 5 digit number system stopped just shy of 72000 in the summer of 1976.
Sorry Pap, I really don’t think this is a Claud... that’s not to say anything against what your father has done here (if it was him who re-finished this frame) as it looks well done and the chrome work wouldn’t have been cheep..

NB we have to remember that it really wasn’t that long ago when all the amazing information we now have at our fingertips had to be hard fought for. Now it’s real easy to google images and lists on forums & social media. If you’d asked me what this was 20 years ago I would have said a Claud Butler Coureur, just one I hadn’t seen before...


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:52 pm 
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Hey,

I recently came into this old Claud frameset and would love to know what it is/was.

Had an Olympic head Badge riveted on, frame number appears to be 56672 stamped across the centre of the BB near the base of the downtube. Lugs are simple and not ornate, for crown is flat-topped and Crown lug shape is similar to the top part of a heart shape.

Will try to upload pics but I hope that’s helpful!


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:16 am 
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09woodh wrote:
Hey,

I recently came into this old Claud frameset and would love to know what it is/was.

Had an Olympic head Badge riveted on, frame number appears to be 56672 stamped across the centre of the BB near the base of the downtube. Lugs are simple and not ornate, for crown is flat-topped and Crown lug shape is similar to the top part of a heart shape.

Will try to upload pics but I hope that’s helpful!


Definitely need photos for any sort of identification, but the number suggest its from 1969,
When you sorted the photos, please post them here; viewtopic.php?f=12&t=396384

As that’s the Holdsworth Claud thread, Cheers…


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:10 am 
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Greetings!
I would be most grateful if somebody can help me identify my bike serialnumber 15819.
I’ve been searching the web,cant find any CB like mine,comparing lugz,decals,fork etc.
Thanks
F Bullit Stockholm Sweden


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:36 am 
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Frank Bullit wrote:
Greetings!
I would be most grateful if somebody can help me identify my bike serialnumber 15819.
I’ve been searching the web,cant find any CB like mine,comparing lugz,decals,fork etc.
Thanks
F Bullit Stockholm Sweden


The number suggests the frame was built late 1962, the decals suggest it was “made up” early 1963
The name on the top tells you exactly what it is….An Olympic :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:59 pm 
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Thank you Peachy,I bow before you✊️!!
May I ask how you read the serialnumber and how many o f the Olympic path/track frame/model were made in ’62?
Thank you !


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:54 pm 
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Frank Bullit wrote:
Thank you Peachy,I bow before you✊️!!
May I ask how you read the serialnumber and how many o f the Olympic path/track frame/model were made in ’62?
Thank you !


Absolutely no idea how many were made I’m afraid....the Holdsworth Claud number sheet (approximate list) is here;
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=396384

You’ll see your number is likely to have been stamped on the frame set near the end of the year, my reference to the bike having likely to have been finished/sold in ‘63 is because it has the Holdsworth version of the Olympic Rings decal which wasn’t around in 1962.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:22 am 
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Picked up my free CB tandem at the weekend - had a lovely chat with Steve and picked up some Bluemels mudguards on the way home that I saw advertised on FB to make the most of driving around the countryside.

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Anyway - its been refinished at some point in green flam - frame number on the front BB is 45628, also stamped on the front fork.

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The number format seems to be in line with the CB part number guide and I'm assuming the 4 refers to either 1934 or 1944? Seeing as tandems were more popular in the 30s than the 40s (and 1944 was wartime) I'm assuming its 1934.

Refering to the 1934 catalogue there are two frames that are the same pattern as mine.....the Super Club and the Super Fast Tourer. Struggling to see a lot of difference between them from the images......I think the fork crown on mine aligns with the Super Club. There is mention of Brampton fittings being used on the Super Club and Chater Lea on the Super Fast - does this refer to the headset and bb or the lugs and bb shells? I guess identifying what I have will answer the question as to which frame it is....

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Anyone have any thoughts on my assumptions?


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