Frame identification help needed

I think the BB is a Sakae 36mmx24tpi but later I am gone check that.

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torqueless":3qosky6i said:

I think the BB is a Sakae 36mmx24tpi but later I am gone check that.

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If that is so it looks like it might be an Italian frame after all, as mdvineng says. Probably a Piazza!

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allenh":2qlssh96 said:

torqueless":2qlssh96 said:

I think the BB is a Sakae 36mmx24tpi but later I am gone check that.

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If that is so it looks like it might be an Italian frame after all, as mdvineng says. Probably a Piazza!

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Oops yep, forgot about the fork ends and rear dropouts.

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nunojoao":2x7x62lj said:

Sorry don't understand what did you mean by " forgot about the fork ends and rear dropouts"

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nunojoao":28wgk68r said:

torqueless":28wgk68r said:

nunojoao- Do you know whether the bottom bracket threads on this frame are French (35mm x 1mm) thread?
Or Italian thread (36mm x 24tpi)? Or Swiss thread?

From Sheldon Brown:
"Some French bicycles, notably many Motobécane models, used Swiss thread bottom brackets.
These have the same thread and diameter as French, but use a left thread for the fixed cup."




The thread might be inscribed on the BB cups, if you still have them.

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I think the BB is a Sakae 36mmx24tpi but later I am gone check that.

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torqueless":2v77k3z4 said:

In that case, the question that occurs to me, is:
Would Piazza be making frames with French thread (and Nervor steerer, and RGF BB shell) for the French market, at a time when Campag. 'short' dropouts had been around for long enough to be copied by others? (say 1978 earliest?)

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nunojoao":9bptshxe said:

After I remove all the rust I saw that the BB is 35 mm x 1 mm.
For that reason it’s a french thread.

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