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 Post subject: Cicli Diamant
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:22 pm 
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Hi everyone,
Long time lurker but just registered tonight.

A friend has offered me a free frame but I haven’t heard of the maker before.

Cicli Diamant which appears to be from Belgium. Decals show it is Columbus tubes and forks.
I can’t find anything on the web about it. Anyone got any ideas ?

Thanks,
Ken


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 Post subject: Re: Cicli Diamant
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:24 pm 
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Here is an earlier thread on Diamant

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=253261&start=20

Nice looking frame and I guess it’s genuine as no one would slap Diamant stickers on a frame when they could pretend uts a Colnago or a Gios.

Interesting fork as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Cicli Diamant
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:35 pm 
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Thanks for the link. Just got it home tonight. 52 cm approximately with Campagnolo drop outs and nice lug details . It’s too small for me but I might try to encourage my daughter to try it out.


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 Post subject: Re: Cicli Diamant
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:46 pm 
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Quick photo of lug details


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 Post subject: Re: Cicli Diamant
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:00 pm 
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Ken986s wrote:
Quick photo of lug details


Interesting! Those cut-outs have been identified before as being a trademark of Derycke-built frames. Bikes with these sometimes pop up as "faux-nagos".

I have one, and I'm sure the frame came from Belgium:

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 Post subject: Re: Cicli Diamant
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:54 pm 
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Great information thanks.
Love the colour by the way.


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 Post subject: Re: Cicli Diamant
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:37 pm 
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Looks like a Martelly frame. In which case it is quality.

Eddy Martens is a well known Belgian framebuilder who, in addition to selling frames under his own name, has built frames for a number of Belgian companies, including Diamant and Derycke


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 Post subject: Re: Cicli Diamant
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:29 am 
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DSH wrote:
Looks like a Martelly frame. In which case it is quality.

Eddy Martens is a well known Belgian framebuilder who, in addition to selling frames under his own name, has built frames for a number of Belgian companies, including Diamant and Derycke


Thanks for that. Interesting! That would fit in with what I think I know. Martens has stated in an interview that he built frames for Wout Verhoeven, a Dutch wholesaler who supplied non-branded frames from various Belgian builders to quite a few shops that would brand them as their own. Until now I had assumed that Derycke may also have been one of Verhoeven's suppliers, but this seems a more plausible explanation.

Piet Slikker, the owner of the Giovanni brand has confirmed to me that the orange frame pictured above in fact came from Verhoeven.


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